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Purchasing a new high end multimeter

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MassiveProng

Jan 1, 1970
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It's only modern dogs like the 189 with all these whopping data
logging features that have poor battery life and hence need
rechargeables.


Even when such "features" are unused?

Sounds like a bad design.
 
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MassiveProng

Jan 1, 1970
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I agree wholeheartedly with all of your points.

Sometimes a simpler device is more appropriate too. I'd get a couple for the
money actually. One of them would be either a 70 or 80 series I reckon.

If one is not in the field, then bench meters are the "way to go".
 
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MassiveProng

Jan 1, 1970
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Whatever makes you feel better. Even if it is now off by 2% (and I
seriously doubt it), it's still plenty accurate enough for anything I need
to do. Care to take some pot shots at my Hitachi V650F scope now? At any
rate, since I don't let people like you near any of my test equipment, it's
probably gonna be good to go for another 20 years. HTH :)

I'd pitch your rat shack shit back into the closet or corner of the
bench, TestTard.

As for your scope, whoopie fucking doo. As for instruments, I have
handles much more sensitive gear than you have. Components as well.
 
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David L. Jones

Jan 1, 1970
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Common sense is using a high accuracy meter, regardless of
consumption rate, and using rechargeables, as they recoup your costs
quite quickly. Better for the environment as well.

You need to catch up with modern times.

No need to use a high precision meter for most jobs. Even 0.5% is good
enough for most general work.
Few people need better than say the 0.05% of the Fluke 87-V in a
general lab or field meter, and you get 400hours battery life with
that, that can mean several years use if you only use it every now and
then.

Leave that high accuracy bench meter on all day do you?, how much
power is that using?, how much CO2 is that contributing?

Dave :)
 
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David L. Jones

Jan 1, 1970
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If one is not in the field, then bench meters are the "way to go".

Rubbish, I could not survive without a handheld meter (or two, or
three) on the bench.
We have bench meters that sit there gathering dust because they are
just so inconvenient to use for general use. Lucky if they get fired
up once a year.

You must have the words smallest work bench where everything reaches
your bench meter probes.

Real labs have multiple benches, and gear that needs testing that is
never within reach of a bench meter. It's hard enough getting a scope
where you need it, thank god for the new DSOs that weigh next to
nothing, you can just move them around the bench, on the floor, on a
chair to get extra reach etc

Dave :)
 
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Anthony Fremont

Jan 1, 1970
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MassiveProng said:
I'd pitch your rat shack shit back into the closet or corner of the
bench, TestTard.

That's why you'll never get near it, like I said.
As for your scope, whoopie fucking doo. As for instruments, I have
handles much more sensitive gear than you have. Components as well.

I'm starting to wonder what equipment you actually own vs. the stuff your
keepers let you fondle. Do you OWN a Fluke?
 
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MassiveProng

Jan 1, 1970
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Leave that high accuracy bench meter on all day do you?, how much
power is that using?, how much CO2 is that contributing?


No. I use instrument WHEN I need them. And the amount is negligible
either way. Ever seen the consumption spec on one?
 
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MassiveProng

Jan 1, 1970
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That's why you'll never get near it, like I said.


It's worthless. Why would I even want to "get near it", much less
you gnarly, know nothing lard ass?
 
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MassiveProng

Jan 1, 1970
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I'm starting to wonder what equipment you actually own vs. the stuff your
keepers let you fondle. Do you OWN a Fluke?

I own a 4 channel 100Mhz scope, and an HP 3478A, and a cheap Protek
506, which is MY baseline version of a cheap meter, and beats your
shit shack crap all to hell and back.

I USE Flukes at work, as well as HP network analyzers, and HP
spectrum analyzers.

So **** off.

I made a new joke this week.

I was in Arack all day.
 
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David L. Jones

Jan 1, 1970
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I own a 4 channel 100Mhz scope, and an HP 3478A, and a cheap Protek
506, which is MY baseline version of a cheap meter, and beats your
shit shack crap all to hell and back.

I'll have Anthony's trusty old Radio Shack meter over the Protek any
day.
I have no less than 4 Protek 506's in my draw at work, and there they
sit unused.
Got RSI from changing that clunker of a range switch yet?

My 25 year old Soar ME533 gets more use than the Proteks.

Dave :)
 
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David L. Jones

Jan 1, 1970
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The Agilent unit is ALSO made in china. That does not, however,
make that product "low end" by any stretch.

The Agilent 3000 series scopes are rebadged Rigol:
http://www.rigolna.com/products_osc_DS5000.aspx
Rigol design and manufacture them, and also sell them as their own
branded 5000 series.

Rigol roll their own 1GS/s converters too apparently.

They aren't a bad low end scope.

Dave :)
 
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Anthony Fremont

Jan 1, 1970
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MassiveProng said:
I own a 4 channel 100Mhz scope, and an HP 3478A, and a cheap Protek

Ah, so no Flukes of your own then. Don't you care enough about the brand to
spend your own money on a one? What brand scope do you have there? I will
say this, it'll be a cold day in hell before I shell out a grand for a DMM
that I can't even take with me, or an DMM for that matter.
506, which is MY baseline version of a cheap meter, and beats your
shit shack crap all to hell and back.

A couple of meters and a scope, that's it? I just checked the specs on that
Protek handheld, it doesn't really look any better than my Micronta (if as
good). 1.5% + 5 digits on AC, that doesn't sound all that great to me? Not
much use on diode testing either, huh?

I do have some Protek stuff though, an old B801 frequency/sweep generator
and a B818 frequency counter. I bought them a long time ago (>15 years)
because they were cheap. Is Protek known as a high quality brand now?
I USE Flukes at work, as well as HP network analyzers, and HP
spectrum analyzers.

I don't care what equipment your keepers own, I asked what you were using at
home. I could get a part time job as a valet and start boasting about the
beauties I drive every day, but that wouldn't make me an expert on cars.
So **** off.

But what have you designed and built with your wonderful equipment? I don't
think I've ever seen a single circuit from you or heard you talk about any
projects you had going?
I made a new joke this week.

I was in Arack all day.

You probably should have worked on your grammar instead. Now here's a neat
piece of test equipment that was worth every penny:
http://www.ham.dmz.ro/meters/mfj/mfj-259b.php and here's the new one:
http://www.mfjenterprises.com/products.php?prodid=MFJ-269
Of course since it's not designed to be used anally you might not have much
need for one.
 
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Anthony Fremont

Jan 1, 1970
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MassiveProng said:
No. I use instrument WHEN I need them. And the amount is negligible
either way. Ever seen the consumption spec on one?

Yes, it's over 20W on the HP 3478A. You were saying? Also your amazing
bench meter has no better resolution than my Micronta on DC current
measurements (1uA).
 
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