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Discussion in 'CAD' started by Spock, May 28, 2006.

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  1. Spock

    Spock Guest

    Hello Everyone

    Do Protel still have demo versions of their probucts?
    I had a look on their web site and could not find any.
    I'm at college and am learning PCB design and we use
    protel but it is a very old version 2.8
    Thank you.

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  2. They provide a demo on CD. The last downloadable demo AFAIK
    was the Protel99SE demo.

    Anton Erasmus
  3. Pooh Bear

    Pooh Bear Guest

    I think that's the one I saw. Utterly shockingly bad piece of software. Not even
    the tiniest attempt to make it a Windows program which suggests to me you're
    better off sticking with the DOS version.

  4. Frank

    Frank Guest

    Op Mon, 12 Jun 2006 23:18:39 +0100 schreef Pooh Bear:
    From other comments in this newsgroup I had the impression that Protel 99
    SE Service Pack 6 was pretty good.

  5. Pooh Bear

    Pooh Bear Guest

    If you're happy with the mouse doing nothing other than moving a pointer around you
    might also be happy with Eagle which is free.

    We had a sub-contractor do a board re-layout for us using Protel and I used the demo
    copy to look at it. I couldn't make any sense of it ) Protel nott he board that is ),
    whereas something like Pads/powerpcb seemd intuitive instantly and I could use that to
    transfer info back to another subbie very easily.

  6. JeffM

    JeffM Guest

    If you're happy with the mouse doing nothing other than
    No. It's EAGLE *Lite* (the limited *demo* version)
    that is available free for *non-commercial* use.
    The pricing for payware EAGLE, however, is very reasonable.*-*+zz-zz+eagle+*-layer+$50+*-layers+gEDA

    OTOH, Kicad and gEDA, being GPL'd, *ARE* free (gratis and libre).
  7. One definitely has to take Pooh Bear's comments with a grain of salt.

    Here is the salt. A true Windows based program (P99SE) is a piece of
    crap simply because he couldn't figure it out after a brief attempt.
    'Probably' without reading the manuals or trying the tutorials because he
    didn't have time for such things. However a 1990s DOS engine running under a
    phoney weak Windows GUI is an intuitive Windows program (PADs)? I would
    have to think that Pooh Bear was mostly messed up by his familiarity with
    PADs, their clunky interface and convoluted manner of doing things. Happens
    to everyone that is used to one CAD program and attempts quickly switching
    to another. Been there, done that several times myself. There simply isn't a
    standard for CAD program interface/operations so one has to relearn the
    basics each time one changes programs.

    I use both programs (PADs since 1991 (initially DOS only, then under
    Windows GUI) and P99SE since 2000) and will take Protel's interface over
    PADs any day, they are very different at their core. However, 15 years of
    development will do that as opposed to simply repeatedly rebranding the
    product for the past nearly 10 years and never writing it as a true Windows
    program to start with.

    As for the other question, yes, P99SE with SP6 is quite stable and very
    usable. There are a lot of professional Protel users that still refuse to
    upgrade away from P99SE w/ SP6 even 4 years after significant upgrades and
    new features were made available. Some that have upgraded readily jump back
    to P99SE because they still prefer working in it, when they don't need the
    new features/capabilities.
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