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Discussion in 'Electronic Design' started by John Larkin, Aug 23, 2007.

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  1. Robert

    Robert Guest

    You mean the "...believed to have been first used". :)

    Robert H.
     
  2. Rich Grise

    Rich Grise Guest

    This isn't disrespect. In fact, I think it shows a great deal of
    respect.
    Hear, hear!

    The customer may not always be right, but the customer is always the
    one who puts food on my table. ;-)

    Cheers!
    Rich
     
  3. Jim Thompson

    Jim Thompson Guest

    Yup. That's yours truly ;-)

    ...Jim Thompson
     
  4. JosephKK

    JosephKK Guest

    John Larkin posted to
    sci.electronics.design:
    I find some fault with you for even hiring him, disrespect like
    respect is earned.
    Not sure what you mean here. There two respect issues here, one for
    your engineering, the other for you being the boss. The first is
    earnable, the second is cannonic.
    And disrespect is not so fine in a new hire.
    Maybe switch important to impertinent.
     
  5. JosephKK

    JosephKK Guest

    Rich Grise posted to sci.electronics.design:
    Yes, it applies intra-organizationally as well as
    inter-organizationally.
     
  6. Robert

    Robert Guest

    Lucky man.

    Robert H.
     
  7. Hal Murray

    Hal Murray Guest

    I think people who drive cars should encourage bicycling.

    I commute by bicycle. If I wasn't riding a bike, I'd be driving
    an old klunker and cluttering up your lane.

    Can you get your local cops to give them a ticket?
     
  8. Hal Murray

    Hal Murray Guest

    We check each others work, which is an excellent way to find the
    One good way to say thanks is to not drag your feet when
    they ask you to check their design.


    Sometimes it helps to have a party to check all the details.
    I remember one session where we had a half dozen people
    and a big pile of data sheets and schematics and net-lists
    and ...

    Most of the work was done in pairs - one person reading
    stuff off the net list and another checking that the signal
    name made sense on the data sheet.

    The environment was good. It got better when the project
    manager brought in pizza. :)


    Unless you do a lot of designs so you have already tested them,
    you also have to double check the library parts you just created.

    For small boards, blowing up the gerbers to fill a whole sheet
    makes them a lot easier to read. (my eyes are old) It's easy
    to semi-automate after you figure out how to do it.
     
  9. Well - as we say 'round 'ere: A Volvo is an inverted hedgehog - the pricks
    are on the inside!
     
  10. Fred Bloggs

    Fred Bloggs Guest

    That sounds like a lot of duplication of effort. The parts library
    should be well verified beforehand, both in schematic entry and the PCB
    layout. You should have reason to be confident in the DRC verification
    of the schematic to layout verification as well as its other features
    like finding shorts or illegal connections like output to output, as
    well as all the other physical rules checking, if not, you should be
    using another product. This leaves only two sources of human error: a
    bad schematic or bad routing vulnerable to crosscoupling or some other
    kind of interference or possibly abuse of a component.
     
  11. legg

    legg Guest

    No respect is not disrespect.

    Respect and disrespect are both 'earned'.

    RL
     
  12. Jim Thompson

    Jim Thompson Guest

    Why do you say "Lucky" ??

    ...Jim Thompson
     
  13. Jim Thompson

    Jim Thompson Guest

    On Sun, 26 Aug 2007 00:07:16 -0500,
    I work at home, but the typical commute around here is probably 20-30
    miles.
    I'm working on it.

    ...Jim Thompson
     
  14. John Larkin

    John Larkin Guest

    And then there's the Toyota Pious, trailing choking clouds of smug.

    John
     
  15. John Larkin

    John Larkin Guest

    On Sun, 26 Aug 2007 03:34:13 -0500,

    Yup. Design is an emotional activity, so attitude is everything.
    We create all our own parts, and we do check them at least twice the
    first time they appear on a board. We're more likely to get the pcb
    decal not-quite-perfect, than the pinout wrong.
    We never check gerbers. We do look over the board pretty hard while
    still in in PADS, with pretty colors, especially for signal integrity
    and mechanical issues. PADS seems to handle connectivity and design
    rule checks perfectly, and makes correct gerbers every time.

    John
     
  16. John Larkin

    John Larkin Guest

    And thermal issues. And layout cosmetics.

    John
     
  17. Jim Thompson

    Jim Thompson Guest

    Sno-o-o-o-ort! Good one, John!

    ...Jim Thompson
     
  18. God damn you can be dense.
    Nah, his simple and basic wish is to run his mouth because he's
    entertained by the responses.

    Most people, including cyclists, are simply going to see a feeble old
    man with an ignorant and bad attitude. He'll mostly be laughed at --
    those are the responses he doesn't see/hear. None of those people
    will know Jim is a talented engineer. None could care less. And it
    is because it really doesn't matter.
     
  19. Robert

    Robert Guest

    You might want to hold off on PADS2007 for a bit then. There's been some
    complaining on the support forum about incorrect Gerber's in some
    situations. I'll see if I can find the comments if you're interested.

    Robert H.
     
  20. Robert

    Robert Guest

    That work situation wasn't accidental?

    Robert H.
     
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