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  1. Palindrome

    Palindrome Guest

    Roy wrote:
    No contributor can possibly know what "is the best solution to his
    lighting dilemma", based on what little information has been posted.
    Your idea of what a "hallway" is may be very different from the OP's,
    for a start.

    A quick check of the message headers is a good idea, to check what time
    zone (or ISP/IP address) the OP is using - that can give a clue as to
    where in the World they are located. Something very important as not
    only do codes vary but so do supply voltages and frequencies. Suggesting
    110v products by internet/mail order to someone who is extremely likely
    to be using 230v is dangerous and unwise.

    Poking fun at someone whose command of a second language is far superior
    to many people's command of their first (no names, no pack drill) is
    unkind. It was pretty obvious that the OP's misspelling of "lighting"
    was probably the cause of his difficulty in locating the product(s) that
    he needed.

    It may indeed be that some form of occupancy/motion sensor would be
    ideal for the OP and it was helpful to suggest it. But please do
    remember that this is an international group when composing replies.
     
  2. Roy

    Roy Guest

    From: (Palindrome)
    Roy wrote:
    <snip>
    a state of the art occupancy sensor is the best solution to his lighting
    dilemma.Truth is if "lightning" is in his hallway they're deep in do do
    & wearing galoshes};-{)

    S's>No contributor can possibly know what "is the best solution to his
    lighting dilemma", based on what little information has been posted.
    Your idea of what a "hallway" is may be very different from the OP's,
    for a start.
    A quick check of the message headers is a good idea, to check what time
    zone (or ISP/IP address) the OP is using - that can give a clue as to
    where in the World they are located. Something very important as not
    only do codes vary but so do supply voltages and frequencies. Suggesting
    110v products by internet/mail order to someone who is extremely likely
    to be using 230v is dangerous and unwise.
    Poking fun at someone whose command of a second language is far superior
    to many people's command of their first (no names, no pack drill) is
    unkind. It was pretty obvious that the OP's misspelling of "lighting"
    was probably the cause of his difficulty in locating the product(s) that
    he needed.
    It may indeed be that some form of occupancy/motion sensor would be
    ideal for the OP and it was helpful to suggest it. But please do
    remember that this is an international group when composing replies.
    --
    Sue
    ==================
    Ooops ;) maybe I didn't take certain angles into consideratiion...sorry,
    but I don't see the use of a 30 - 60sec timer on any hallway lighting
    array in any part of the world dear. what if you drop something and you
    accidentally kick it a fair distance away after 27.99 seconds of a 30
    sec lapse has transpired - you'll only have 2.01 seconds to retrieve it
    or the lights will go off ;-) what does one do., stumble around in the
    dark for what ?

    In Europe I'd probaly be arrested and forced to conduct tests and wiring
    upgrades in prison as part of my term }:) cause if all I have is
    115/125 Vac items and devices I'd wire one leg of the 230Vac with the
    sensor in series since it would still control the lighting circuit,
    though 230V items do/should excist.

    Tell me what was wrong about my suggestion and I'll rephrase it., was it
    my format or the content? I usually try hard to be gracious when someone
    makes a mistake or pints out mine, an I address the issue without
    prejudice if my contribution helps I have done my art, if it stirs up
    controversy I am intrigued., but not that urious as to what part of the
    world I maybe affecting.....

    It's a loving people thing ;-)

    Roy Q.T.
    [have tools, will travel]
     
  3. Palindrome

    Palindrome Guest

    a > 30 sec lapse has transpired - you'll only have 2.01 seconds to
    My pneumatic time delay switches glow in the dark.. I do use passive IR
    sensors where they are suitable, but my hallway has a ceiling about 40ft
    up and has solid stone walls. It would be quite difficult to get
    adequate coverage without a large number of sensors and a great deal of
    work installing them. As I mentioned, "hallway" means different things
    to different people.

    Yep, many countries do take endangering others pretty seriously.
    However, UK prisons are massively overcrowded and under-staffed. You
    would be in a cell probably 22 hours or more out of every 24, be sharing
    it with one or two interesting people (although the cell was designed
    for one) and not be allowed anywhere near tools or wiring. Never mind,
    as much and as varied illegal drugs that you could possibly want will be
    easily obtained. If you want to try hazarding people, I'd suggest going
    to Greenland to do it. Not only are the hospitals first class (and short
    of patients) but the jails are too..

    Far be it for me to presume as to guide you what to put in your posts.
    However, for me, I tend not to suggest any particular product or
    supplier unless I have reason to believe that they will be appropriate.
    Plus, I don't rib anyone about spelling or use of English, if I suspect
    that English isn't their first language. Apart from anything else, few
    foreign speakers have poked fun at my mistakes in their language - which
    have undoubtedly had them rolling on the floor..

    Sue
    (Without the signature break, as you appear to have difficulty with them).
     
  4. Roy

    Roy Guest

    From:palindrome
    Roy wrote:
    Ooops ;) maybe I didn't take certain angles into consideratiion...sorry,
    but I don't see the use of a 30 - 60sec timer on any hallway lighting
    array in any part of the world dear. what if you drop something and you
    accidentally kick it a fair distance away after 27.99 seconds of
    a 30 sec lapse has transpired - you'll only have 2.01 seconds to
    retrieve it or the lights will go off ;-) what does one do.,
    stumblearound in thedark for what ?

    S>My pneumatic time delay switches glow in the dark.. I do use passive
    IR sensors where they are suitable, but my hallway has a ceiling about
    40ft up and has solid stone walls. It would be quite difficult to get
    adequate coverage without a large number of sensors and a great deal of
    work installing them. As I mentioned, "hallway" means different things
    to different people.

    Me Joking Around: In Europe I'd probably be arrested and forced to
    conduct tests and wiring upgrades in prison as part of my term }:)
    cause if all I have is 115/125 Vac items and devices I'd wire one leg of
    the 230Vac with the sensor in series since it would still control the
    lighting circuit, though 230V items do/should excist.

    S:>Yep, many countries do take endangering others pretty seriously.
    However, UK prisons are massively overcrowded and under-staffed. You
    would be in a cell probably 22 hours or more out of every 24, be sharing
    it with one or two interesting people (although the cell was designed
    for one) and not be allowed anywhere near tools or wiring. Never mind,
    as much and as varied illegal drugs that you could possibly want will be
    easily obtained. If you want to try hazarding people, I'd suggest going
    to Greenland to do it. Not only are the hospitals first class (and short
    of patients) but the jails are too..

    Me>Tell me what was wrong about my suggestion and I'll rephrase it., was
    it my format or the content? I usually try hard to be gracious when
    someone makes a mistake or pints out mine, an I address the issue
    without prejudice if my contribution helps I have done my art, if it
    stirs up controversy I am intrigued., but not that urious as to what
    part of the world I maybe affecting.....

    S:>Far be it for me to presume as to guide you what to put in your
    posts. However, for me, I tend not to suggest any particular product or
    supplier unless I have reason to believe that they will be appropriate.
    Plus, I don't rib anyone about spelling or use of English, if I suspect
    that English isn't their first language. Apart from anything else, few
    foreign speakers have poked fun at my mistakes in their language - which
    have undoubtedly had them rolling on the floor..
    Sue
    ---------------[this break is fine and I don't mind accentuating it
    after your posts]

    Thanx ~ I am not in the business of endangering people and as for
    controlling on leg of a 230/240 circuits it isn't illegal if the master
    switch still holds complaince, nor does it endangeranyone I'd solve more
    problems than the average Elvis in Europe - don't get me wrong, I have
    great concern for the wellfare & safety of others and pause in my craft
    to thoroughly analyze any system I am working on.

    Your ceiling can be way up there, still all you need to do is wire up
    the sensors where you're normal switches are at the entrance & exits ~
    add some sort of fantasy wireless tower to relay the signal where the
    switch don't reach if need be in a long as heck hallway....

    I've seen nifty desktop occupancy sensors and good as well for table &
    floor lamps, so don't swet it darling., I am in fantasy land you know.,
    expertly doing this thing for you madam }:) with a little help from our
    friends ~ if I may.

    English? no swet - I was a daily laugh attack for over 20 young men &
    women until I learned my second language well [Spanish], in the meantime
    one is allowed to enjoy and laugh at others first attempts, repectfully
    and totally joyfully of course;) - it actually helps lighten the mood.,
    And one strives to better oneself with greater & valid assurances...not
    hype }:)

    Roy Q.T.
    [have tools, will travel]
     
  5. FatBytestard

    FatBytestard Guest

    Yet, one would have expected Roy, the "Master Electrician" not to have
    missed that tid-bit.
     
  6. FatBytestard

    FatBytestard Guest


    Yep... Many of us have been trying simple gestures to get you to leave
    the group for what seems like ages now.

    What's the problem, Roy? Yet another thing you have problems being
    compliant with? Obviously.
     
  7. Roy

    Roy Guest

    (FatBytestard)

    We'll see what's obvious.....Metuchen. Vengence is a dish best served
    Hot.....

    Death is with you now ! Embrace it Decietful One ~ and bounce back to
    the well you sprung from less your demons take over you ass too.

    The Day Is At Hand ! ! ! Say Where...

    Roy Q.T.
    [have tools, will travel]
     
  8. TheKraken

    TheKraken Guest


    Bwuahahahahahah!

    The name of the bar is "The Kraken", Roy. It has a picture of a big
    octopus on the front taking a ship down to the depths.

    But Roy... You don't even rate a dingy, much less a ship...
     
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