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  1. Every time I want to print something the damn ink head is dried up. I
    don't print much. So I have to buy a $50.00 print cartridge every time
    I want to print 2 pages. I think I should get a rebate on the ink left
    in the old cartridge. The cleaning cycle most of the time don't clear it up.
    I'm thinking of going back to dot matrix. Do lasers have the same
    drying up problem from lack of use?
    I would call an ink jet printer a failed invention if it can't work on
    demand. Maybe they need a law suite slapped on them.
  2. Arfa Daily

    Arfa Daily Guest

    Is it by any chance an Epson ...??

  3. Some printers have a cover you can put over the cartridge. Others don't let
    you pull the cartridge. Best to do one color job a week.
  4. Lionel

    Lionel Guest

    You should be able to improve the problem considerably by covering
    your printer with a plastic cover when you're not using it, which will
    slow down the humidity loss that's drying out your printer. The more
    airtight you can make the cover, the less it will clog up between
  5. Jim Land

    Jim Land Guest

    No. They can sit unused for weeks and print the next page perfectly.

    I got a small laser printer (Brother HL 2040) two years ago and am
    completely satisfied. The cost of a new toner cartridge is somewhat
    higher than a new ink cartridge, although it lasts longer. But that is
    minor compared to having no ink problems!
  6. Bill Jeffrey

    Bill Jeffrey Guest

    Yup, Epsons are famous for this. I trashed a very nice Epson a couple
    weeks ago because of this problem. No amount of cleaning will help it,
    and I'm talking about much more aggressive cleaning than just running
    the CLEAN cycle.. The problem with Epson is that the print nozzles are
    part of the machine, and hence are not replaceable (in a practical
    sense). Other mfrs, including HP, put the print head in the cartridge.
    The nozzles can still dry out, but at least replacing the cartridge gets
    you clean new print heads.

    I read somewhere - I think on the HP website - that if you are not going
    to use your printer for a while, you can prevent dried out nozzles by
    putting your cartridge in a zip-lock baggie with a piece of moist paper
    towel. Of course, some printers (is it Epson again?) won't let you
    reinsert a cartridge once you have pulled it ...

    Can you still buy a dot matrix printer???

  7. I had good luck cleaning the black cartridge on my old HP with isopropyl
    alcohol and paper towel. Didn't work so well for the color though. With the
    nozzles on the cartridge theirs nothing to lose.
  8. JR North

    JR North Guest

    Create a Notepad document with TESTTHEPRINTER repeated 3 abreast and 40
    down. Bold font. Also, create a MYC color stripe set in your paint
    program. Save these to a desktop folder named PRINTER. Open and print
    each one once a week, and the printer won't dry up. The "clean the print
    head" utilities with most inkjets are designed to use up lots of ink.
    Don't use them unless absolutely needed.
  9. Jerry Peters

    Jerry Peters Guest

    I had the same problem. My solution was a cheap laser, it's not only
    cheaper per page than an inkjet (especially if you have to discard ink
    cartridges because they've dried up), but much faster. I have a
    Brother HL1440 which is nice because the toner is replaceable
    separately from the drum unit.

  10. Arfa Daily

    Arfa Daily Guest

    I too drop-kicked my second Epson down the garden a couple of weeks ago,
    after repeated clogging episodes and having to use a gallon of ink that's
    dearer than rocket fuel every time, to get them to clean. I have watched
    them clog whilst the piggin' thing is actually printing !! What really used
    to gall me, was that you could not run a clean / purge cycle on individual
    heads, which meant that sometimes you virtually emptied half full cartridges
    that were not even giving a problem. My take on the problem, is that Epsons
    don't go to sleep when they are not in use. I like to have my printer on
    24/7 and ready to roll. I can't be doing with waiting half an hour whilst
    the printer grunts and wheezes and checks that it's on line and that it has
    ink and that it has paper and on and on and on ... I want to just hit
    "print", and 30 seconds later, have a piece of printed paper in my hand. But
    when you leave an Epson on, it just leaves the heads out where it finished,
    and that, I think, is where the problem lies. I have now gone back to an HP,
    as I always had in the early days of home PCs. This one, unlike my previous
    HPs, does not have the heads built into the cartridges - they are part of
    the printer itself. However, the trick is that when this printer detects
    that it has not been used for 20 minutes or so, it goes to sleep and parks
    the heads back up, presumably sealing them onto the purging station. This
    results in the printer being ready to go within seconds at all times, but
    without dried up heads.

  11. Yes, but they're expensive and only used for multi part printing.
  12. Jeroni Paul

    Jeroni Paul Guest

    This is not correct, all Epsons I know park the head in its sealed
    sleep place a few seconds after printing.

    The fact that it sometimes clogs up while printing is not because it
    actually clogs but because there is insufficient ink pulled from the
    cartridge or air drops inside. This could indicate a weak or jammed
    pump or because you don't turn it off doesn't make enough pumping
    cycles to bring new ink to the reservoir inside its printing heads.
    Turning off overnight would be a good idea.

    Epsons are a good design but they fail on their princes, they should
    sell their ink cheaper. I have an old Epson Stylus color Pro and am
    very happy with it, cheap and big cartridges (the compatible ones of
    course) and never clogs.
  13. Arfa Daily

    Arfa Daily Guest

    I was actually told that the heads didn't park on the Epsons by someone who
    was involved a lot with the sales / service side, and as I don't believe
    that I ever heard either of the two Epsons that I owned do anything after
    they finished printing, I just accepted what he said, and took it to be a
    valid reason for the continual problems that I had, right from day one, on
    both of them. You might ask why, having had problems with the first one, I
    went and bought another. Weeelll.... you see there was this very good
    salesman who assured me that the design had moved on since the first one I
    had, and the latest model had all sorts of bells and whistles and really did
    represent exceptionally good value for money especially as they had them on
    offer and well, stupidly, out came my wallet ... I really had gone to the
    shop with every intention of buying an HP, but a nice new model really
    couldn't be as bad as the previous one, could it ?

    Within a couple of weeks, I was regretting ever having heard of Epson. I
    had much e-mail exchange with the monkeys that they have trained as
    technical advisors, and got nowhere. They don't even seem to understand the
    most basic fundamentals of problems with their products, and just trot out
    form replies. Anyway, a few weeks back, I got really mad on the back of yet
    another head clog, and went and bought an HP. I use it in exactly the same
    way - that is it's powered and in standby 24/7. So far, it hasn't missed a
    beat. Whether or not it is actually any different from the Epson in what it
    does after it's finished printing, I don't know for sure, but some minutes
    after a print is finished, there is a brief flurry of internal mechanical
    activity which sure *sounds* like the heads parking, before the LCD goes
    dark, and it all goes to sleep. I never heard either of the Epsons do this.
    Whatever, anyway, on the HP the standby mode does not cause a problem. On
    the Epson, it does.

    The print quality is superior to the Epson. The ink useage is superior. The
    cartridges are cheaper, and best of the lot, it's a network printer. The
    software that came with it, particularly that for controlling the scanner,
    is better in every way. I am really glad that I went back to an HP. I will
    never EVER buy an Epson again.

  14. I have an Epson I don't use so much now. I bought a sack each of Epson brand
    ink on eBay - I figure the printer will die before I use it all.
  15. James Sweet

    James Sweet Guest

    I've had some with this problem, the HP 840C I have now has been on the
    same cartridge for almost a year now and occasionally goes for months of

    No, lasers don't dry out, color lasers are expensive but if you do
    mostly B&W printing they're great.
  16. me

    me Guest

    You can manage to buy a color laser printer for the price of 10 to 20 ink
    cartridges these days.
  17. Splork

    Splork Guest

    Get a laserjet 4+, 5 or 4000/4050 on ebay. Get your
    cartridges there too. Buy smart.
  18. Madness

    Madness Guest

    Yeah, I've got an Epson C-80 that's partially jammed up!! It won't do
    black @ all and is iffy on the magenta! Seems that cyan & yellow are OK.
    No amount of cleaning cycles do anything except use up the new
    cartridges I installed.

    The printer I'm using now that works is an old HP Deskjet 420 I bought @
    Goodwill. Other than having to replace the carts here & there, it hasn't
    missed a beat (although the setup of using only one cart @ a time --
    black or tri-color -- is a bit odd; I use it only for text, BTW).
  19. Someone on the web sells a cleaning solution.

    Repairs: All Epson Stylus printers (except for the C64-C86, CX4600-CX6400
    series) which don't print, or print choppy in black or color. For the other
    printers, as well as Canon BJCs, use the other repair kit.

    This is the same chemical used by Epson in their service department
    Easy to use, no disassembly required
    Gently dissolves even the most stubborn clogs and restores output to dried
    out print nozzles and clogged printheads
    In our testing on an Epson 600 that sat unused for several months, it 100%
    restored a head that had no output, with one application (Individual results
    may vary)

    Note: This is not alcohol or Windex; it is an ink-specific solvent that has
    proven to be safe and effective for use on Epson printheads. Do not use
    alcohol or Windex, they will very likely ruin your printer.

    Kit Includes:
    1 oz bottle Epson Stylus Head Cleaning Solution (enough to fix several
    1 syringe applicator for dispensing solution

    Simple directions for use
  20. Lionel

    Lionel Guest

    Windex is really good for removing dried inkjet ink. If your printer
    has been clogged for any length of time, you should also squirt the
    cleaning mechanism, because they clog up as well, & prevent the
    cleaning cycles from working.
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