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Discussion in 'General Electronics' started by KellyClarksonTV, Aug 15, 2004.

  1. Hi The other day I was trying to print a B&W document and the printer refused
    saying the magenta ink was out. Is it possible to print B&W documents without
    replacing the color inks?

    Thanks!
     
  2. Robert Baer

    Robert Baer Guest

    Yes; get a dumber (older) printer.
    Some prriter drivers allow one to select B&W or color.
    But if the printer gives actual feedback, this probably would not work
    anyway.
     
  3. argh! Color ink is so expensive, and I'll probably not use it again anyways ...
    could I fill the cartidge with water to trick the printer that there is new
    ink, since I'm not using it now? Would this hurt the printer?
     
  4. You'd better tell us what printer you're talking about.

    petrus bitbyter
     
  5. Robert Baer

    Robert Baer Guest

    I do not think that would work, especially with a "smart" printer.
    Some use cartridges with a chip for monitoring, and that would have to
    be re-programmed to indicate "full".
    Furthermore, water flows too easily; good chance you would have a
    nasty mess.
    If the printer is not too smart, maybe a black cartridge would work as
    replacement?
     
  6. Maybe ... except they are a different size
     
  7. Julie

    Julie Guest

    Go to a thrift shop and pick up a used b&w inkjet printer.
     
  8. But my question is, WHY does it care the color ink is out if all you want to
    print is B&W?
     
  9. classd101

    classd101 Guest

    Just put it in your alkaline charger... nah just jokin.

    Probably just another attempt to rip you off more, same reason they're
    starting to use chips in them to prevent you from refilling them.

    We should find a decent printer that's a little more user friendly in
    that respect and boycott all others until they smarten up.
     
  10. Nirodac

    Nirodac Guest

    "Probably" is not the correct term. They ARE ripping us off.
    At one time Cannon sold printers that required only an ink tub replacement.
    You kept the same print head. Trouble was two fold. 1. it was very easy
    and very cheap to fill the tub ( I found a source that would sell ink by the
    gallon, $70.00USD), Cannon made no money on this beyond the original sale of
    the printer. 2. After about five tubs of ink the print head started to clog
    up, but, it too was a user replaceable unit, which meant it could be easily
    removed from the printer and, say, soaked in warm water (you where supposed
    to buy a new print head), again Cannon lost a sale.
    Then the printer manufacturers realized that if they sold you a cheap
    printer, say for $50.00USD they would then have you by the short and curlies
    for supplies, like print head ink cartridges. Kinda like Gillet giving away
    free razors, then having you come back to buy their blades for the next
    twenty years. But then the refillers came along with ways of refilling the
    cartridge. So they made smart cartridges, that count each drop of ink
    expelled, then shut off the print head after the last drop was spit out.
    Now you have no choice but to buy their new, expensive, cartridges. Some
    cartridges can be reprogrammed, some are however encrypted, and once dead,
    they stay that way.
    Ever wonder why laptop batteries die instantly. Its cause they have a
    micro built in that shuts them off after so much usage. You can't even
    replace the cells and have a "good " pack again, the micro just would come
    back to life.

    Ah, isn't technology wonderful.
     
  11. classd101

    classd101 Guest

    Yeah and if you have buy both a black and clored cartridge, you just
    spent more money than your printer is worth brand new.

    I'm not the type of person for frivolous lawsuits but.. it's high time
    they got a real slap in the face. Those cartridges are faaaaar
    overpriced anyway, if they just sold them for what they were worth it
    wouldn't be an issue, like 5 to 10$ max. What can we do about it,
    other than bend over?

    I never had a problem with canon though, never! I still have my first
    canon printer actually, in a box collecting dust. I never ran out of
    ink with it, as best as I can recall. It liked to chew up paper a
    dozen at a time, and only print a line of gibberish on each page, so
    really it didn't use alot of ink.
     
  12. Robert Baer

    Robert Baer Guest

    I have used a Canon BJC-4100 and a Canon BJC-4300 and have had zero
    print problems, given good cartridges.
    I buy the remanufactured cartridges, and then refill them with the
    generic refill ink, untill the cartridge goes bad.
    I paid about $7.00 each for the printers at Goodwill, and they both
    have lasted for years...
     
  13. JeffM

    JeffM Guest

    So they made smart cartridges, that count each drop of ink expelled,Not Canon. If you buy Lexmark, Epson, or HP (chipped printer cartridges),
    you get what you deserve.
    There are actually aftermarket modders who use reservoirs this large.
    http://www.google.com/search?&q=continuous-flow-printers
    The trick to getting economical consumables
    is not to buy the cheapest printer--with an all-colors-in-one cartridge.
    Canon's Photo series has individually-replaceable CMY tanks.
    It sounds like Nirodac is parsimonious--not frugal.
    Buying the unit with the lowest initial cost
    is not always the most cost-effective way to go.
    Yup. When buying an inkjet, it's Canon.
    When buying anything, look for something
    where sombody else has already taken the big hit on the price.
     
  14. Nirodac

    Nirodac Guest

    Actually I did not mean to imply that Canon used chipped cartridges. It was
    a general statement. I've used HP, Lexmark, Canon and others over the
    years. I do believe that Lexmark and HP count the ink drops. I don't know
    about Epson. I should be more clear when posting messages, sorry.
    I do know that some manufacturers make printers with replaceable ink resv.
     
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