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Guy

Jan 1, 1970
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I have the following alarm which has been working good for the past 2 years.

Power832 PC5010 v2
LCD5501Z
8 Sensors
-01 Motion
-02 Motion
-03 Motion
-04 Door Delay
-05 Door
-06 Door
-07 Door
-08 Door

I played with it a little and now when I press STAY, it says BYPASS and none
of the sensors cause an alarm. I had bypassed the motion detectors once a
few weeks ago but I tought the bypass gets reset when the alarm is turned
off. It doesnt say BYPASS when the alarm is ready - only when I press STAY.

Can anyone shed some light on this? Thanks for all.

Guy
 
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alarman

Jan 1, 1970
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Guy said:
I played with it a little and now when I press STAY, it says BYPASS
and none of the sensors cause an alarm.

1.Explain what you did and what values are now assigned to zones 1-8.
2. Look at the installation manual to see what the values mean.
 
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Bob Worthy

Jan 1, 1970
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The "stay" mode, when activated, bypasses the motion detectors. However, you
said that you have played around with it. Was that before or after you
noticed the problem? And people wonder way security companys lock out the
installer level programming capabilities. Perfect example just demonstated.
Lucky he noticed it before there was an incident. Think of the devices one
might not recognize so easily like smoke detectors, if they were not to work
after someone was playing with it.
 
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Guy

Jan 1, 1970
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Here are some of the changes I made:
1. In [016], I turned option 7 off so that the system doesn't check for
telephone line.
2. In [301] [302] [303], I removed the telephone numbers for the monitoring
company. I'm thinking of programming my cell phone. Not sure if that will
work.
3. In [371], I set to 9999 so that the alarm doesn't do a test.
4. In [401], I turned off option 1 so that if someone calls twice the system
won't answer the phone.


I forgot to mention that I added a smoke detector last year. Here is the
Zone programming:
1 = 05: Interior, Stay/Away (Motion)
2 = 05: Interior, Stay/Away (Motion)
3 = 05: Interior, Stay/Away (Motion)
4 = 01: Delay 1 (Main door)
5 = 03: Instant (Other door)
6 = 03: Instant (Patio door)
7 = 03: Instant (Garage door)
8 = 03: Instant (Other garage door)
9 = 07: Delayed 24 Hour Fire (Hardwired)

Here's what happening: The Clock is displayed on the LCD and the Ready Light
is on. I hold the "STAY" button for 3 seconds. Then the LCD says Bypass,
and the Ready and Alarm lights are on. The alarm doesn't sound when I open
a door.

Thanks again,
Guy
 
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A.J.

Jan 1, 1970
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Not suppose to go off yet ...... STAY or not, the exit delay is still there.


Guy said:
Here are some of the changes I made:
1. In [016], I turned option 7 off so that the system doesn't check for
telephone line.
2. In [301] [302] [303], I removed the telephone numbers for the
monitoring company. I'm thinking of programming my cell phone. Not sure
if that will work.
3. In [371], I set to 9999 so that the alarm doesn't do a test.
4. In [401], I turned off option 1 so that if someone calls twice the
system won't answer the phone.


I forgot to mention that I added a smoke detector last year. Here is the
Zone programming:
1 = 05: Interior, Stay/Away (Motion)
2 = 05: Interior, Stay/Away (Motion)
3 = 05: Interior, Stay/Away (Motion)
4 = 01: Delay 1 (Main door)
5 = 03: Instant (Other door)
6 = 03: Instant (Patio door)
7 = 03: Instant (Garage door)
8 = 03: Instant (Other garage door)
9 = 07: Delayed 24 Hour Fire (Hardwired)

Here's what happening: The Clock is displayed on the LCD and the Ready
Light is on. I hold the "STAY" button for 3 seconds. Then the LCD says
Bypass, and the Ready and Alarm lights are on. The alarm doesn't sound
when I open a door.

Thanks again,
Guy
1.Explain what you did and what values are now assigned to zones 1-8.
2. Look at the installation manual to see what the values mean.


--
js

It's what you learn after you know it all that counts.
John Wooden
 
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Guy

Jan 1, 1970
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I checked every bit of programming. It's like it's always been (except for
those few changes I made on communications last September).

And I guess it is normal for the display to show "Bypass" in STAY mode
because of the motion sensors.

But still, when I open any door in STAY mode, the alarm doesn't sound.

When I do a 901, the alarm sounds as I open these doors, as well as when I
walk through the motion sensors.

I did a 902 and a 903.

By the way, the 903 shows 4. I can't remember for sure but isn't it suppose
to show 1? I only have one keypad programmed as Partition 1 Slot 4.

Does anyone have any other ideas about my STAY issue? Thanks again.

Guy




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alarman

Jan 1, 1970
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Inline:
Here are some of the changes I made:
1. In [016], I turned option 7 off so that the system doesn't check
for telephone line.

The TLM option is in section 015, option 7, not 016.
2. In [301] [302] [303], I removed the telephone numbers for the
monitoring company. I'm thinking of programming my cell phone. Not
sure if that will work.

No, sorry, it won't work with your cell phone.
3. In [371], I set to 9999 so that the alarm doesn't do a test.

Why in the world would you not want a periodic test?
4. In [401], I turned off option 1 so that if someone calls twice the
system won't answer the phone.
O...K.


I forgot to mention that I added a smoke detector last year. Here is
the Zone programming:
1 = 05: Interior, Stay/Away (Motion)
2 = 05: Interior, Stay/Away (Motion)
3 = 05: Interior, Stay/Away (Motion)
4 = 01: Delay 1 (Main door)
5 = 03: Instant (Other door)
6 = 03: Instant (Patio door)
7 = 03: Instant (Garage door)
8 = 03: Instant (Other garage door)
9 = 07: Delayed 24 Hour Fire (Hardwired)

Where did you connect the hardwired smoke detector?

Here's what happening: The Clock is displayed on the LCD and the
Ready Light is on. I hold the "STAY" button for 3 seconds. Then the
LCD says Bypass, and the Ready and Alarm lights are on. The alarm
doesn't sound when I open a door.

You need to let the exit delay expire, then open a door. The bypass
indicator is supposed to come on if you arm in the stay mode, and have
interior zones on your system.
 
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Guy

Jan 1, 1970
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Thanks,
1. You're right, I made a typo, it is [015] and that was where I removed bit
7, I never touched [016].
2. I tried programming my cell number and it did call my cell,... and called
my cell again,... and again,... I guess the system not only calls the
specified number but needs to communicate the information properly.
3. I figured that the periodic test needed to communicate with the
monitoring company. Don't tell anyone but my alarm is not being monitored
anymore.
Guy
Inline:
Here are some of the changes I made:
1. In [016], I turned option 7 off so that the system doesn't check
for telephone line.

The TLM option is in section 015, option 7, not 016.
2. In [301] [302] [303], I removed the telephone numbers for the
monitoring company. I'm thinking of programming my cell phone. Not
sure if that will work.

No, sorry, it won't work with your cell phone.
3. In [371], I set to 9999 so that the alarm doesn't do a test.

Why in the world would you not want a periodic test?
4. In [401], I turned off option 1 so that if someone calls twice the
system won't answer the phone.
O...K.


I forgot to mention that I added a smoke detector last year. Here is
the Zone programming:
1 = 05: Interior, Stay/Away (Motion)
2 = 05: Interior, Stay/Away (Motion)
3 = 05: Interior, Stay/Away (Motion)
4 = 01: Delay 1 (Main door)
5 = 03: Instant (Other door)
6 = 03: Instant (Patio door)
7 = 03: Instant (Garage door)
8 = 03: Instant (Other garage door)
9 = 07: Delayed 24 Hour Fire (Hardwired)

Where did you connect the hardwired smoke detector?

Here's what happening: The Clock is displayed on the LCD and the
Ready Light is on. I hold the "STAY" button for 3 seconds. Then the
LCD says Bypass, and the Ready and Alarm lights are on. The alarm
doesn't sound when I open a door.

You need to let the exit delay expire, then open a door. The bypass
indicator is supposed to come on if you arm in the stay mode, and have
interior zones on your system.

--
js

It's what you learn after you know it all that counts.
John Wooden
 
G

Guy

Jan 1, 1970
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ha ha ha !
Guy

alarman said:
Your secret is safe with me.

--
js

It's what you learn after you know it all that counts.
John Wooden
 
G

Guy

Jan 1, 1970
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Ok, well, I reset the 5010 to its factory default and reprogrammed the whole
thing from scratch. For some reason, it's doing the same thing.

Surely it can't have anything to do with the fact that I disabled the
communications on it. So why won't the STAY mode sound the alarm when any of
the instant sensors are triggered. The LCD5501Z display shows that the zone
is open. What gives?

Still looking for help,
Guy
 
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Jim

Jan 1, 1970
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Your secret is safe with me.


This is really scary!

This is like someone who has a homeowners insurance policy and decides
after a few years to cross out some of the provisions in the personal
liability section that they don't think will happen .

"Well ..... lets see, I don't have a front step so we can cross off
someone falling. And I have screens on the door so no one will cut
themselves on the glass .... so there's two things I should be able to
cross off and get a lower premium. I mean, what are the chances that
something like that would happen ............. anyway?" " I've lived
here for 20 years and we never had a roof leak so .... we can get rid
of that too." "Oil burner puff back. nah...... cross it off."

This system has smoke detectors that will not notify anyone that the
house is on fire when no one is home. He wont know until he gets home
that his wife was beat up and raped by some scumbag .... He wants to
monitor the system on a cell phone that can be turned off, forgotten
in a car, left at home, or be in a no signal area.... On top of that
he ....."plays around" ...... with the system.

And ..... you can bet ...... once he discovers whats wrong with the
Stay function, he'll blithely continue to use the system never knowing
what else isn't going to work when it should.

This is "secruity"?????

Why bother?

I'll bet his insurance company is giving him a discount for having a
monitored alarm system ..... though.

(I just don't understand!)


Sigh
 
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Steven Vaughan

Jan 1, 1970
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Surely it can't have anything to do with the fact that I disabled the
communications on it. So why won't the STAY mode sound the alarm when any
of the instant sensors are triggered. The LCD5501Z display shows that the
zone is open. What gives?

Still looking for help,
Guy



You have to wait until the exit delay expires before the system will become
"armed". Before the exit delay expires, no burg sensors will trigger the
alarm. How long is your exit delay?
 
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Guy

Jan 1, 1970
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Bingo. That's what it was!
Thanks for all.
Guy

Steven Vaughan said:
You have to wait until the exit delay expires before the system will
become "armed". Before the exit delay expires, no burg sensors will
trigger the alarm. How long is your exit delay?
 
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Guy

Jan 1, 1970
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I'll bet his insurance company is giving him a discount for having a
monitored alarm system ..... though.
 
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A.J.

Jan 1, 1970
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You had at least three (3) responses stating that since you posted.
 
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Guy

Jan 1, 1970
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I see that now. For some reason, until Steven's post at least, I had assumed
that the exit delay only applied to my main door, the one that is programmed
with a delay. I apologize about that. My exit delay was 60 seconds.
Thanks you for your help, and to all others too.
Guy
 
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CH®IS

Jan 1, 1970
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Jim said:
news:26e509b0-2d8d-40a8-a603-e5c8fa658bba@k36g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
I'll bet his insurance company is giving him a discount for having a
monitored alarm system ..... though.

just wait until there is a break in or fire... i don't expect that claim is
going to go over well
 
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Crash Gordon

Jan 1, 1970
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Delayed Fire Zone?



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**Crash Gordon**







alarman said:
Your secret is safe with me.

--
js

It's what you learn after you know it all that counts.
John Wooden
 
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