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Guest

Jan 1, 1970
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Help please.
Queensland Australia.

I have a bathroom which was never wired for a wall three pin 240VAC power
outlet.
Probably because 20 odd years ago RCDs were rare & most wiring regs forbade
power outlets for sound safety reasons.

Our house is now protected (all circuits) with an RCD & I would like to
charge my shaver & toothbrush in the bathroom & my wife would like to use a
hairdrier, all pretty everyday needs.

We have a light switch & therefore power from a lighting circuit.
Wiring a power circuit from one of several "nearest power circuit outlets in
other adjacent rooms will involve a good deal of wall lining damage/repair &
the negotiation of several wall corners. So this normal option is difficult.

My question is can I wire from the lightswitch & install close by a three
pin outlet in this situation where power demand will be limited to a
hairdrier. Thats to ask would I breach general safety rules & specifically
Queensland Wiring Rules details with which I am not familiar & can find no
ready reference other than a $65 download.

Pete
 
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SQLit

Jan 1, 1970
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Help please.
Queensland Australia.

I have a bathroom which was never wired for a wall three pin 240VAC power
outlet.
Probably because 20 odd years ago RCDs were rare & most wiring regs forbade
power outlets for sound safety reasons.

Our house is now protected (all circuits) with an RCD & I would like to
charge my shaver & toothbrush in the bathroom & my wife would like to use a
hairdrier, all pretty everyday needs.

We have a light switch & therefore power from a lighting circuit.
Wiring a power circuit from one of several "nearest power circuit outlets in
other adjacent rooms will involve a good deal of wall lining damage/repair &
the negotiation of several wall corners. So this normal option is difficult.

My question is can I wire from the lightswitch & install close by a three
pin outlet in this situation where power demand will be limited to a
hairdrier. Thats to ask would I breach general safety rules & specifically
Queensland Wiring Rules details with which I am not familiar & can find no
ready reference other than a $65 download.

Pete

Your concept is not a good one. Bathroom outlets in the USA can not be on
the same circuit as the lighting. I am not familiar with the Aussie code.
Best check locally and find out what you need to do based on the current
electrical code. My suggestion would be bring a new circuit from the
service. That way the load will not be a problem for the existing circuits.
What ever the cost and aggravation when you go to sell the place the new
owner will appreciate the fact that there is a proper circuit.
Does the Aussie code require GFCI for bathrooms? I have not seen very many 2
pole gfci's here in AZ.
 
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Roy Q.T.

Jan 1, 1970
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You definetly need to use a GFCI receptacle there., I would guess your
best course of action other than run a whole new line *which maybe good,
would be to tap from the lighting fixture box where you will have both
leads for your receptacle., I've wired GFCI receptacles into 2x4 metal
boxes in bathrooms, where there was just a bare wall here in the US....
I don't know about your Aus systems here it's 120vac but it should be
do-able., just make sure the circuit can withstand the Hairdryers load
safely.

and ~>

Use a GFCI and a 3 conductor cable, attach the 3rd wire to your
equipment/boxes for your ground fault detection.
 
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Roy Q.T.

Jan 1, 1970
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I couldn't open nor read the PDF file.

Just what did the guy do to be fined such a large summons ? He must have
been messing up pretty badly ... installing code violations instead of
good workmanship.
 
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Lance Ryan

Jan 1, 1970
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Hi Roy,
He had 60 code violations and had been breached for doing
unlicensed electrical work previously.
In Australia, electrical and plumbing trades are restricted to licensed
contractors, basically you can sit extra testing 1 year after you finish
your 4 year trade, this enables you to conduct an electrical business and do
electrical work.
A lot of burocracy, but that's what we have to put up with.
Lance
 
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Roy Q.T.

Jan 1, 1970
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Thanks Lance;
In cases like that the AHJ (Authority Having
Jurisdiction) would do the community a favor by taking guys like that
out of business.Here in the US they discourage wire hacks from
practicing too but they are very flexible & helpful with Knowledgable
and Qualified Persons with a repoir of good work.

Sadly I've seen so many Jobs performed by Licensed Electrical Companies
rejected and so poorly done, I've remained a Freelancing AC/DC
Technician abating violations and bettered peoples electrical systems
where ever I can.A National labor Council with vested authority granted
me a Master Journeyman Card which I hold Honorably.

I keep myself & my Equipment up-to-date by going to Trade Conventions,
Sampling Latest Materials & Service Innovations, Books, Courses and
Inventions from Electrical, Electronic & The Security Industry.

Occasionally I treat with our Utility Co. ConEd and when need be,
Building & Electrical Inspectors.

I'm no Expert on Foreign Electrical Systems, but, Experience Dictates;
Where Coded work is unavailable or out of reach, good & safe workmanship
may stand the test of time & Human trials.
 
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