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  1. Tommy

    Tommy Guest

    I have a customer with a Gilbarco pos system and he wants to tie in the pos
    data to the video picture.
    I have the equipment but i have not done this with the gilbarco system
    before.

    Anyone out there have any experience with the gilbarco products? They have
    not been very helpful so far.

    the main thing i want to know is what format they feed out the data port?
     
  2. American Video Equipment (one of our vendors) makes POS interfaces for Gilbarco cash registers. There are different interface
    requirements for the different Gilbarco models and the connectors on them. Here are the ones we carry. Since you're in the alarm
    trade you can order direct from AVE.

    - Gilbarco Passport:
    VSI-Pro (02-314) & Triport DB15 (08-013) or DB9 (08-014)
    - Gilbarco PCG SITE (RJ-45):
    VSI-Pro (02-077) & Triport PC-G (08-001)
    - Gilbarco TCG-G2 (DB37):
    VSI-Pro (23-003) & Triport 08-091
    - Gilbarco TCR-15 G-Site (DB-25):
    VSI-Pro (02-075) & Triport (08-026) & Cable (06-023)

    Here's info on AVE (my website):
    http://www.bassburglaralarms.com/vsi_pro_cash_register_interfaces_1557_ctg.htm

    Here's AVE's page for selecting what you need:
    http://www.americanvideoequipment.com/technical_support/vsi_compatibility.htm

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    Regards,
    Robert L Bass

    =============================>
    Bass Home Electronics
    941-925-8650
    4883 Fallcrest Circle
    Sarasota · Florida · 34233
    http://www.bassburglaralarms.com
    =============================>
     
  3. Tommy

    Tommy Guest

    I have a system with a geovision data capture built in for this job but i
    am unsure of the data coming from the gilbarco. I know what i have on my
    end. I am wondeing what to look for coming from the gilbarco.
     
  4. Matt Ion

    Matt Ion Guest

    I know on the Vigil systems, you simply enable the data-capture
    function, and tell it what sort of POS system you're using. Gilbarco is
    one of the options; as I recall, there are no different models listed
    for it, so they apparently use the same format for all their POS
    systems. Basically, whatever you're feeding the data to simply needs to
    know the Gilbarco format, and be configured for that option. The data
    itself SHOULD just be plain ASCII text, at least it has been on the
    Gilbarco systems I've dealt with - it can be viewed in HyperTerm on the
    receiving machine.

    Connection-wise, it typically is just an RS-232 cable (wired as
    "null-modem") between a serial port on the POS computer, and one on the
    DVR (at least for PC-based DVRs). The POS will probably have to be
    configured specifically to output its data on the desired port (I've
    seen some with RS-232 expansion boards with eight ports, in addition to
    the one or two on the computer itself, for interfacing various things).
     
  5. Matt Ion

    Matt Ion Guest

    As far as my experience with Gilbarco POS systems, the serial port
    appears to just output straight 7-bit ASCII text, one line per item.
    With the proper null-modem connection to a receiving PC, you should be
    able to view the data in Windows' HyperTerminal.

    If you're using one of those simple video-overlay boxes that simply
    imprints the text onto the video itself, the box may need to be
    configured specific to the Gilbarco (vs. other POS brands), but it
    shouldn't be too difficult.

    Best place to find that information is probably in the interface box's
    own documentation - do you know the make and model of it, and have you
    tried contacting its manufacturer?

    The other thing you'll probably need to do, of course, is specify which
    serial port to output the data on, in the POS's setup. Gilbarco may be
    able to help you with that, but with so many different types of devices
    people are interfacing to capture that data, it's not surprising that
    they're not as helpful on setting that up... heck, you can probably find
    plans to build such a box on an electronics-project site.
     
  6. Matt Ion

    Matt Ion Guest

    Dunno, never done much of a comparison.

    www.camacc.com if you wanna check out the manufacturer's website.
    They're based out here, in Victoria, BC.
     
  7. Matt Ion

    Matt Ion Guest

    Guess it depends on what features you're looking for... they have some
    interesting stuff going on. They typically start in the $3k-$4k range,
    I think, for a basic 16 channel/60ips/300GB "mini-cube" system.

    They have a few neat things, such as dedicated "HD Viewer" systems for
    displaying IP cameras on multiple VGA displays.
     
  8. Guess it depends on what features you're looking for... they have some interesting stuff going on. They typically start in the
    16 Channels at 60 total FPS would be pretty useless.

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    Regards,
    Robert L Bass

    =============================>
    Bass Home Electronics
    941-925-8650
    4883 Fallcrest Circle
    Sarasota · Florida · 34233
    http://www.bassburglaralarms.com
    =============================>
     
  9. Matt Ion

    Matt Ion Guest

    Considering most sites I see default to 320x240 at 1FPS per channel... I
    don't think anyone's noticing. It's still a damn sight better than
    24-hour time-lapse VHS.
     
  10. Considering most sites I see default to 320x240
    That's ridiculous. They may as well put in a still
    camera for all the good 1 FPS will do them.
    Until there's an event. When they try to see what
    happened and all they get is three blurry frames
    of "someone" moving across the field of view, they'll
    start looking for a new source of CCTV equipment.
    Many of them look online, so thanks.
    A horse and buggy is also better than a dog pulling
    a little red wagon.

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    Regards,
    Robert L Bass

    =============================>
    Bass Home Electronics
    941-925-8650
    4883 Fallcrest Circle
    Sarasota · Florida · 34233
    http://www.bassburglaralarms.com
    =============================>
     
  11. Matt Ion

    Matt Ion Guest

    Funny, it's been sufficient for a number of incidents at fuel stations,
    professional buildings, liquor stores... cops just yesterday nabbed a
    snatch-and-run beer thief in a beer-and-wine store we service in fact,
    based on a printout of the store's ID cam.

    Seeing as the big fuel companies don't spec anything beyond that, I
    don't think they have an issue with it; if they did, they'd say so on
    their spec sheets. For those that want more, we can always bump them up
    to 704x480 and higher FPS. You can't go much more than that with ANY
    analog-capture systems. More than that, we give them 1.3MP or higher IP
    cams.
    AHHAHAHAHAHA and you figure they'll come to you? AHAHAHAHAH great, you
    just keep waiting for that.
     
  12. Considering most sites I see default to 320x240
    Really? City and case number, please.
    A certain percentage do. Thanks.

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    Regards,
    Robert L Bass

    =============================>
    Bass Home Electronics
    941-925-8650
    4883 Fallcrest Circle
    Sarasota · Florida · 34233
    http://www.bassburglaralarms.com
    =============================>
     
  13. Matt Ion

    Matt Ion Guest

    You're hilarious :)
     
  14. Really? City and case number, please.

    I notice you didn't respond to the above.
    Gee, thanks.

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    Regards,
    Robert L Bass

    =============================>
    Bass Home Electronics
    941-925-8650
    4883 Fallcrest Circle
    Sarasota · Florida · 34233
    http://www.bassburglaralarms.com
    =============================>
     
  15. Jim

    Jim Guest

    Not much use sending ...... anything .... to a dead man.
     
  16. Matt Ion

    Matt Ion Guest

    I don't see that that's really any of your business.
     
  17. Matt Ion

    Matt Ion Guest

    For that matter, it's not any of MY business; it's between the client
    and the police.
     
  18. I notice you didn't respond to the above.
    Translation: You made it up.

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    Regards,
    Robert L Bass

    =============================>
    Bass Home Electronics
    941-925-8650
    4883 Fallcrest Circle
    Sarasota · Florida · 34233
    http://www.bassburglaralarms.com
    =============================>
     
  19. For that matter, it's not any of MY business;
    Translation: You made it up. It never happened.

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    Regards,
    Robert L Bass

    =============================>
    Bass Home Electronics
    941-925-8650
    4883 Fallcrest Circle
    Sarasota · Florida · 34233
    http://www.bassburglaralarms.com
    =============================>
     
  20. Frank Olson

    Frank Olson Guest

    Robert L Bass wrote:

    Translation: You're feeling better and the "I don't want to fight"
    thing you had going was boring you.

    Matt's in VANCOUVER. Now, if you remain "true to form", your next step
    will be to accuse him of being me, make several mentions of "levitating
    ladders", "inverted 747's" (it was really a 737), and a "counter" (or
    "counter-clerk").
     
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