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Tommy

Jan 1, 1970
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I have a customer with a Gilbarco pos system and he wants to tie in the pos
data to the video picture.
I have the equipment but i have not done this with the gilbarco system
before.

Anyone out there have any experience with the gilbarco products? They have
not been very helpful so far.

the main thing i want to know is what format they feed out the data port?
 
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Robert L Bass

Jan 1, 1970
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Tommy said:
I have a customer with a Gilbarco pos system and he wants to tie in the pos
data to the video picture.
I have the equipment but i have not done this with the gilbarco system
before.

Anyone out there have any experience with the gilbarco products? They have
not been very helpful so far.

the main thing i want to know is what format they feed out the data port?

American Video Equipment (one of our vendors) makes POS interfaces for Gilbarco cash registers. There are different interface
requirements for the different Gilbarco models and the connectors on them. Here are the ones we carry. Since you're in the alarm
trade you can order direct from AVE.

- Gilbarco Passport:
VSI-Pro (02-314) & Triport DB15 (08-013) or DB9 (08-014)
- Gilbarco PCG SITE (RJ-45):
VSI-Pro (02-077) & Triport PC-G (08-001)
- Gilbarco TCG-G2 (DB37):
VSI-Pro (23-003) & Triport 08-091
- Gilbarco TCR-15 G-Site (DB-25):
VSI-Pro (02-075) & Triport (08-026) & Cable (06-023)

Here's info on AVE (my website):
http://www.bassburglaralarms.com/vsi_pro_cash_register_interfaces_1557_ctg.htm

Here's AVE's page for selecting what you need:
http://www.americanvideoequipment.com/technical_support/vsi_compatibility.htm

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Regards,
Robert L Bass

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Bass Home Electronics
941-925-8650
4883 Fallcrest Circle
Sarasota · Florida · 34233
http://www.bassburglaralarms.com
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Tommy

Jan 1, 1970
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Are you looking for a simple POS overlay into the video or making the
metadata available as part of the searchable video?
There are guys that have the POS schema integrated into their machine
already and some just have an SDK they throw at you. The one I'd bet
that would have all that built in would be Electronic Lines. Example
below. The ETV Enterprise Systems are specifically designed with the
retail environment in mind to provide complete solutions for POS
(Point of Sale) and Retail Loss Prevention. The ETV POS software
allows you to set a variety of parameters for a Manual Search Query.
For instance, you can monitor the sale of Lottery tickets with any
assigned search criteria including, Item code, value, quantity,
cashier, register number, and receipt number to quickly retrieve data
and related video. Enter your search criteria into the Predefined
Custom Search section to save and repeat the same search without
having to re-enter the information.

I have a system with a geovision data capture built in for this job but i
am unsure of the data coming from the gilbarco. I know what i have on my
end. I am wondeing what to look for coming from the gilbarco.
 
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Matt Ion

Jan 1, 1970
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Tommy said:
I have a system with a geovision data capture built in for this job but i
am unsure of the data coming from the gilbarco. I know what i have on my
end. I am wondeing what to look for coming from the gilbarco.

I know on the Vigil systems, you simply enable the data-capture
function, and tell it what sort of POS system you're using. Gilbarco is
one of the options; as I recall, there are no different models listed
for it, so they apparently use the same format for all their POS
systems. Basically, whatever you're feeding the data to simply needs to
know the Gilbarco format, and be configured for that option. The data
itself SHOULD just be plain ASCII text, at least it has been on the
Gilbarco systems I've dealt with - it can be viewed in HyperTerm on the
receiving machine.

Connection-wise, it typically is just an RS-232 cable (wired as
"null-modem") between a serial port on the POS computer, and one on the
DVR (at least for PC-based DVRs). The POS will probably have to be
configured specifically to output its data on the desired port (I've
seen some with RS-232 expansion boards with eight ports, in addition to
the one or two on the computer itself, for interfacing various things).
 
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Matt Ion

Jan 1, 1970
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Tommy said:
I have a customer with a Gilbarco pos system and he wants to tie in the pos
data to the video picture.
I have the equipment but i have not done this with the gilbarco system
before.

Anyone out there have any experience with the gilbarco products? They have
not been very helpful so far.

the main thing i want to know is what format they feed out the data port?

As far as my experience with Gilbarco POS systems, the serial port
appears to just output straight 7-bit ASCII text, one line per item.
With the proper null-modem connection to a receiving PC, you should be
able to view the data in Windows' HyperTerminal.

If you're using one of those simple video-overlay boxes that simply
imprints the text onto the video itself, the box may need to be
configured specific to the Gilbarco (vs. other POS brands), but it
shouldn't be too difficult.

Best place to find that information is probably in the interface box's
own documentation - do you know the make and model of it, and have you
tried contacting its manufacturer?

The other thing you'll probably need to do, of course, is specify which
serial port to output the data on, in the POS's setup. Gilbarco may be
able to help you with that, but with so many different types of devices
people are interfacing to capture that data, it's not surprising that
they're not as helpful on setting that up... heck, you can probably find
plans to build such a box on an electronics-project site.
 
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Matt Ion

Jan 1, 1970
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Roland said:
Since there are hundreds of DVR manufacturers it is no surprise I have never
heard of this brand. What is their strong point in the market place?

Dunno, never done much of a comparison.

www.camacc.com if you wanna check out the manufacturer's website.
They're based out here, in Victoria, BC.
 
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Matt Ion

Jan 1, 1970
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Just said:
I'd already looked at there site. It didn't seem like they were strong on
features. I guess they are popular being Canadian or priced at the low end
of the market?

Guess it depends on what features you're looking for... they have some
interesting stuff going on. They typically start in the $3k-$4k range,
I think, for a basic 16 channel/60ips/300GB "mini-cube" system.

They have a few neat things, such as dedicated "HD Viewer" systems for
displaying IP cameras on multiple VGA displays.
 
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Robert L Bass

Jan 1, 1970
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Guess it depends on what features you're looking for... they have some interesting stuff going on. They typically start in the
$3k-$4k range, I think, for a basic 16 channel/60ips/300GB "mini-cube" system.

16 Channels at 60 total FPS would be pretty useless.

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Regards,
Robert L Bass

=============================>
Bass Home Electronics
941-925-8650
4883 Fallcrest Circle
Sarasota · Florida · 34233
http://www.bassburglaralarms.com
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Matt Ion

Jan 1, 1970
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Robert said:
16 Channels at 60 total FPS would be pretty useless.

Considering most sites I see default to 320x240 at 1FPS per channel... I
don't think anyone's noticing. It's still a damn sight better than
24-hour time-lapse VHS.
 
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Robert L Bass

Jan 1, 1970
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Considering most sites I see default to 320x240
at 1FPS per channel...

That's ridiculous. They may as well put in a still
camera for all the good 1 FPS will do them.
I don't think anyone's noticing...

Until there's an event. When they try to see what
happened and all they get is three blurry frames
of "someone" moving across the field of view, they'll
start looking for a new source of CCTV equipment.
Many of them look online, so thanks.
It's still a damn sight better than 24-hour time-lapse
VHS.

A horse and buggy is also better than a dog pulling
a little red wagon.

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Regards,
Robert L Bass

=============================>
Bass Home Electronics
941-925-8650
4883 Fallcrest Circle
Sarasota · Florida · 34233
http://www.bassburglaralarms.com
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Matt Ion

Jan 1, 1970
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Robert said:
That's ridiculous. They may as well put in a still
camera for all the good 1 FPS will do them.

Funny, it's been sufficient for a number of incidents at fuel stations,
professional buildings, liquor stores... cops just yesterday nabbed a
snatch-and-run beer thief in a beer-and-wine store we service in fact,
based on a printout of the store's ID cam.

Seeing as the big fuel companies don't spec anything beyond that, I
don't think they have an issue with it; if they did, they'd say so on
their spec sheets. For those that want more, we can always bump them up
to 704x480 and higher FPS. You can't go much more than that with ANY
analog-capture systems. More than that, we give them 1.3MP or higher IP
cams.
Until there's an event. When they try to see what
happened and all they get is three blurry frames
of "someone" moving across the field of view, they'll
start looking for a new source of CCTV equipment.
Many of them look online, so thanks.

AHHAHAHAHAHA and you figure they'll come to you? AHAHAHAHAH great, you
just keep waiting for that.
 
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Robert L Bass

Jan 1, 1970
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Considering most sites I see default to 320x240
Funny, it's been sufficient for a number of incidents at fuel stations, professional buildings, liquor stores... cops just
yesterday nabbed a snatch-and-run beer thief in a beer-and-wine store we service in fact, based on a printout of the store's ID
cam.

Really? City and case number, please.
...and you figure they'll come to you?

A certain percentage do. Thanks.

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Regards,
Robert L Bass

=============================>
Bass Home Electronics
941-925-8650
4883 Fallcrest Circle
Sarasota · Florida · 34233
http://www.bassburglaralarms.com
=============================>
 
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Robert L Bass

Jan 1, 1970
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Really? City and case number, please.

I notice you didn't respond to the above.
You're hilarious :)

Gee, thanks.

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Regards,
Robert L Bass

=============================>
Bass Home Electronics
941-925-8650
4883 Fallcrest Circle
Sarasota · Florida · 34233
http://www.bassburglaralarms.com
=============================>
 
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Matt Ion

Jan 1, 1970
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Matt said:
I don't see that that's really any of your business.

For that matter, it's not any of MY business; it's between the client
and the police.
 
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Robert L Bass

Jan 1, 1970
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I notice you didn't respond to the above.
I don't see that that's really any of your business.

Translation: You made it up.

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Regards,
Robert L Bass

=============================>
Bass Home Electronics
941-925-8650
4883 Fallcrest Circle
Sarasota · Florida · 34233
http://www.bassburglaralarms.com
=============================>
 
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Robert L Bass

Jan 1, 1970
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For that matter, it's not any of MY business;
it's between the client and the police.

Translation: You made it up. It never happened.

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Regards,
Robert L Bass

=============================>
Bass Home Electronics
941-925-8650
4883 Fallcrest Circle
Sarasota · Florida · 34233
http://www.bassburglaralarms.com
=============================>
 
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Frank Olson

Jan 1, 1970
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Robert L Bass wrote:

Translation: You made it up. It never happened.

Translation: You're feeling better and the "I don't want to fight"
thing you had going was boring you.

Matt's in VANCOUVER. Now, if you remain "true to form", your next step
will be to accuse him of being me, make several mentions of "levitating
ladders", "inverted 747's" (it was really a 737), and a "counter" (or
"counter-clerk").
 
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