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Jamie M

Jan 1, 1970
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Hi,

I was wondering if something exists to divide the vibration frequency of
a surface plasmonic wave? Like if there is a light source that
creates a surface plasmonic wave on a nano-scale metal sheet, is there
a way to reduce the frequency with some type of frequency divider
equivalent device?

cheers,
Jamie
 
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Jamie M

Jan 1, 1970
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Hi,

Also wondering if anyone has any ideas on how to implement a "plasmonic
mixer", fed with two light signals (L1 and L2), and having the same
functionality as an RF mixer in that the output would be L1 + L2 and
optionally L1 - L2.

cheers,
Jamie
 
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Sjouke Burry

Jan 1, 1970
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Jamie M said:
Hi,

Also wondering if anyone has any ideas on how to implement a "plasmonic
mixer", fed with two light signals (L1 and L2), and having the same
functionality as an RF mixer in that the output would be L1 + L2 and
optionally L1 - L2.

cheers,
Jamie
There are some crystals able to do that. I once bought a
infrared detector, where a crystal layer doubled/triplet the
frequency of the infraared falling on it.
It was rather insensetive however, just enough for the laser
i was experimenting with.
You might try mixing with that non-linear crystal sheet.
 
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Tim Williams

Jan 1, 1970
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Phil Hobbs said:
What I was hoping to do was to rent all the old varactor parametric
devices, such as frequency dividers and paramps, and do the same thing
in the infrared. So yes, if you can actually make tunnel junctions
with negative barrier heights that are chemically stable, it ought to be
possible to make circuit-style frequency dividers.

(I may revisit this if I get any customer interest--I was doing a
seedling with a big defence company a couple of years ago, but the
follow-on DARPA program never got funded. I think you can do a lot of
cool stuff that way.)

That would be very neat. I could imagine, say, for the utmost accuracy,
start with a Rb or Cs microwave source, amplify if necessary, then start
multiplying harmonics out. By the time you get to infrared, you've got
zillions of channels, phase locked to a highly stable and pure reference
(depending on how much phase noise adds up in the process, hmm), and the
same thing on the receiver side can demodulate each band down in parallel
for slower processing (i.e., gigabits/ch into an FPGA). Downsides
include, once you get to the 20th harmonic from multipliers and you've no
power left, how do you amplify the THz without another amp (as such)? But
then, that's what the parametric mumbo jumbo is for.

How wide is the average IR "channel"? Say, a few percent out of 300THz is
a *lot* of bandwidth. And the coherent wideband (or comb spectrum) could
do very interesting optical interferometry, especially with a phase
sensitive detector -- correct me if I'm wrong, but that's kind of a holy
grail among optics, right? :)

Tim
 
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Gerhard Hoffmann

Jan 1, 1970
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Am 02.01.2013 05:48, schrieb Jamie M:
Also wondering if anyone has any ideas on how to implement a "plasmonic
mixer", fed with two light signals (L1 and L2), and having the same
functionality as an RF mixer in that the output would be L1 + L2 and
optionally L1 - L2.

I have seen that in action > 10 years ago. Two lasers shining into
a receiver diode and on the spectrum analyzer one could see the
beat at 60 or 70 GHz or so. They tuned one of the lasers somewhat
and the beat frequency moved by 10 or 20 GHz. Nice stunt.

regards, Gerhard
 
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George Herold

Jan 1, 1970
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I did a subharmonic oscillator with a single diode, can't recall why.
It could surely be tuned for a nicer output, but it clearly divides
down.

Are there any cases of synchronous fluoresence? That should be
possible.

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^^^^
I put in 1uF, but that didn't work.
(Well, only a frequency doubler)

George H.
 
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Jamie M

Jan 1, 1970
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At one point I was working on making metal-insulator-metal tunnelling
varactors. That works by making a junction with one positive barrier
height and one negative, e.g. Ni-NiO-Y or Ni-NiO-Ce. As in a
semiconductor junction, on the negative-barrier side the charge spills
out of the metal into the oxide, and only a huge E field restrains it.

Changing the bias voltage changes the position of the depletion zone,
just as in a normal diode, so it should work as a varactor. The reason
this is interesting for optical purposes is the huge charge density
(rho). Metals have enormously more free electrons than semiconductors,
so the inner edge of the oxide on the negative-barrier side has a
gigantic charge density as well.

The response speed of such a varactor is fundamentally limited by the
plasma frequency in the oxide, which goes as the sqrt(rho). In a
metal, that's up in the ultraviolet someplace, so the varactor should
respond up into at least the mid-infrared.

What I was hoping to do was to rent all the old varactor parametric
devices, such as frequency dividers and paramps, and do the same thing
in the infrared. So yes, if you can actually make tunnel junctions
with negative barrier heights that are chemically stable, it ought to be
possible to make circuit-style frequency dividers.

(I may revisit this if I get any customer interest--I was doing a
seedling with a big defence company a couple of years ago, but the
follow-on DARPA program never got funded. I think you can do a lot of
cool stuff that way.)

Hi,

That is really neat, what would the best practical efficiency in the
light absorption stage be? Could you make a plasmonic mixer with
that stuff (ie with a reference light source as well as the input light
source)? If you could and also have good quantum efficiency,
that would be great, I have a feeling that there might be big losses
in the circuitry though, not sure however, maybe with nano-scale stuff
the losses disappear too. Really interesting work you've done!

cheers,
Jamie
 
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Allan Herriman

Jan 1, 1970
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How wide is the average IR "channel"? Say, a few percent out of 300THz
is a *lot* of bandwidth.

I'm not sure if this meets your definition of average but DWDM used for
communications at (nominally) 1550nm often uses a 100GHz, 50GHz, 25GHz or
12.5GHz grid.

The frequency is related to the channel number as
193.1THz + n * 12.5GHz * 2^M

where n is the channel number and M is 0, 1, 2, etc. to suit the grid
size.

Here's the relevant ITU-T recommendation for DWDM:
http://www.itu.int/rec/T-REC-G.694.1-201202-I/en

Regards,
Allan
 
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George Herold

Jan 1, 1970
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I don't either, but I had a hunch that it would work, and it does.

I don't have to understand things; I just have to make them work.
Googling 'parametric frequency divider', I get lots of hits, but
nothing that
explains how it works. (Or its buried behind the publishing 'money'
wall.)

George H.
 
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Fred Abse

Jan 1, 1970
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SYMATTR Value 1� ^^^^
I put in 1uF, but that didn't work.

It's those damn Greek mu things again. Not traveling well on Usenet.

Mine come out as "1/u00b5", when copied and pasted, although they appear
correctly in the newsreader.

Character set conflicts. I always check the "convert Greek mu" option,
some others don't.
 
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