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bhauth

Jan 1, 1970
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I'd like to build some plasma arc speakers. After all, what could
better than combining audio and high voltage?

Most designs I've seen involve using corona to produce sound. It seems
to me that this has the disadvantages of either needing a RF ground or
interfering with other electronic devices and of wasting a lot of
energy in ultrasonic current variation. And I want to do things
differently in any case. :)

What I was thinking I would do:
Make a especially well smoothed rectifier circuit, which goes through a
H-bridge of power BJTs,
something like
http://www.newark.com/NewarkWebComm...l.jsp?SKU=01H0845&CMP=AFC-CC3763909474&QText=
maybe. The audio input is switched between the bases of the power
transistors through small transistors. This H-bridge feeds either a
tightly coupled half-wave double-resonant solid state tesla coil or an
autotransformer cascade. The autotransformer cascade would be made
something like a tesla coil secondary, with the wire reversing
direction at each stage and with high voltage wires going up and down
the thing, and with a capacitor on the inputs to give soft switching.
The small transistors switching the base current of the larger
transistors would be controlled by a filament. The high voltage high
frequency output of the secondaries would then be rectified by strings
of diodes, something like
http://www.newark.com/NewarkWebCommerce/newark/en_US/endecaSearch/partDetail.jsp?SKU=33C1012&N=0
maybe. This rectified current then goes through a small inductor (to
filter out the resonant frequency component) and the arc that's doing
the transducing.

IGBTs are usually used for this sort of thing, of course, but for an
audio application I figured I'd want the good transconductance of the
BJTs.

It would probably be something like 60kv across it, ie +/- 30kv. More
than that and I'd get pretty sick of soldering diodes.

Any obvious flaws I'm missing here? What's worrying me now is
nonlinearity from the bridge output to the current across the arc.
 
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Vidor Wolfe

Jan 1, 1970
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bhauth said:
I'd like to build some plasma arc speakers. After all, what could
better than combining audio and high voltage?

Most designs I've seen involve using corona to produce sound. It seems
to me that this has the disadvantages of either needing a RF ground or
interfering with other electronic devices and of wasting a lot of
energy in ultrasonic current variation. And I want to do things
differently in any case. :)

What I was thinking I would do:
Make a especially well smoothed rectifier circuit, which goes through a
H-bridge of power BJTs,
something like
http://www.newark.com/NewarkWebComm...l.jsp?SKU=01H0845&CMP=AFC-CC3763909474&QText=
maybe. The audio input is switched between the bases of the power
transistors through small transistors. This H-bridge feeds either a
tightly coupled half-wave double-resonant solid state tesla coil or an
autotransformer cascade. The autotransformer cascade would be made
something like a tesla coil secondary, with the wire reversing
direction at each stage and with high voltage wires going up and down
the thing, and with a capacitor on the inputs to give soft switching.
The small transistors switching the base current of the larger
transistors would be controlled by a filament. The high voltage high
frequency output of the secondaries would then be rectified by strings
of diodes, something like
http://www.newark.com/NewarkWebCommerce/newark/en_US/endecaSearch/partDetail.jsp?SKU=33C1012&N=0
maybe. This rectified current then goes through a small inductor (to
filter out the resonant frequency component) and the arc that's doing
the transducing.

IGBTs are usually used for this sort of thing, of course, but for an
audio application I figured I'd want the good transconductance of the
BJTs.

It would probably be something like 60kv across it, ie +/- 30kv. More
than that and I'd get pretty sick of soldering diodes.

Any obvious flaws I'm missing here? What's worrying me now is
nonlinearity from the bridge output to the current across the arc.
As an aside to the above ideas, try Googling Ionofane and you'll get hits
for home made speakers.
Likewise, Solid State Tesla Coils (SSTC) are increasingly showing up at
Teslathons with audio modulation.
A few designs driving flybacks can also be found on the net too.
I've built one, nice tinny sound, a bit quiet though.
Cheers.
VW.
 
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bhauth

Jan 1, 1970
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Likewise, Solid State Tesla Coils (SSTC) are increasingly showing up at
Teslathons with audio modulation.

So I hear.
A few designs driving flybacks can also be found on the net too.
I've built one, nice tinny sound, a bit quiet though.

Any hints / unexpected problems you fixed?

I'm going for 400-800 watts - should be a little less quiet.
 
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WDino

Jan 1, 1970
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I had an Ionofane Ionic treble speaker about 30 years ago.
As I remember it had a couple of major problems. It was very dependant on the
weather and produce its best sounds on dry days. With humidity it was lower in
volume and higher in hiss level and nonlinearity. That background noise was
always present and after a while became the main reason why I sold it. I
replaced it with a Quad Electrostatic speaker which gave a much cleaner and
noise free sound.

Linearity should not be a problem these days with the use of Pulse Width
modulation techniques but the noise problem will still remain whenever a plasma
is present.
 
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bhauth

Jan 1, 1970
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I'm not using pulse width modulation, I'm using the BJT
transconductance. Atmospheric condition dependency of corona is one of
the reasons I want a DC arc design.
 
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Mike Berger

Jan 1, 1970
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You can get the same effect with a very hot gas flame, and
it's omnidirectional. Popular Mechanics had an article
detailing such a system about 40 years ago.
 
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bhauth

Jan 1, 1970
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Huh. I'd-a thought that combustion instability would dominate at
frequencies on the order of 10k Hz.
 
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Mike Berger

Jan 1, 1970
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Doesn't that depend on the heat of the flame?
 
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Vidor Wolfe

Jan 1, 1970
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bhauth said:
So I hear.


Any hints / unexpected problems you fixed?

I'm going for 400-800 watts - should be a little less quiet.
Well, if you Google "Richie Burnett" you'll get his excellent site with
details on SSTCs and audio modulation.
His last coil at the Nottingham Teslathon earlier this year, was in the
kilowatt range and very loud.
Quite listenable if you like to "see music" coming from an 18" flame.
Mine have been purely done to see if it can be done and show my kids
"magic."
About 50 - 100 watts.
Cheers.
VW.
 
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bhauth

Jan 1, 1970
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I figure that would depend largely on fuel-oxidizer mixing. Which is
turbulent.
 
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bhauth

Jan 1, 1970
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Alright, I've solved everything myself. Nevermind. ^^
 
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