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meyers95

Jan 1, 1970
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Does anyone know if it is possible to circumvent a motion detector with
hairspray? I am assuming this would work with a dual technology motion
as well because it takes both technologies to trip. Please let me
know. Thanks
 
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Steve Foley

Jan 1, 1970
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If by "circumvent" you mean "melt", then hairspray and a lighter will do a
fine job.
 
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Crash Gordon

Jan 1, 1970
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Where are you attempting a burglary tonight?
You assume incorrectly.


| Does anyone know if it is possible to circumvent a motion detector with
| hairspray? I am assuming this would work with a dual technology motion
| as well because it takes both technologies to trip. Please let me
| know. Thanks
|
 
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Frank Olson

Jan 1, 1970
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meyers95 said:
Does anyone know if it is possible to circumvent a motion detector with
hairspray? I am assuming this would work with a dual technology motion
as well because it takes both technologies to trip. Please let me
know. Thanks


Yes. You must use Volumizing Alberto VO-5 in the aerosol can (not the
pump). Spray it in front of you as you walk through the protected
area. The VO-5 cools the air as it volumizes your hair thus preventing
the infra-red energy of your cranium from escaping. Not only will you
cheat the sensors, you'll look good while you're doing it (with every
hair in place). One word of caution though: If the area's too big, you
may wind up coming out of the other end looking like Elvis on a bad hair
day.

If you spray it on your stocking mask it will also help to keep it
straight so the "bun" doesn't wind up at the side of your head where it
just looks too weird (avoid smoking while wearing the mask).
 
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Mark Leuck

Jan 1, 1970
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meyers95 said:
Does anyone know if it is possible to circumvent a motion detector with
hairspray? I am assuming this would work with a dual technology motion
as well because it takes both technologies to trip. Please let me
know. Thanks

Yes and its something the manufacturers are hesitant to talk about

The procedure is grab the hairspray can and smartly smack it against the
motion detector, with enough hits the thin plastic motion casing will break
 
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Everywhere Man

Jan 1, 1970
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meyers95 said:
Does anyone know if it is possible to circumvent a motion detector with
hairspray? I am assuming this would work with a dual technology motion
as well because it takes both technologies to trip. Please let me
know. Thanks <

You're slightly confused. Yes, a motion can be defeated by using
aerosol as the delivery vehicle but hairspray is not the solution. A
popular ingredient in many snack foods known as Polysorbate 80 contains
the chemicals that render a motion detector useless. Polysorbate 80 can
be found in many products, and here are a few you may be familiar with:
Twinkies
Devil Dogs
Mallowmars
Ben & Jerry's Chunky Monkey and in it's aerosol form you will find it
in
Redi Whip Whipped topping
Pam cooking spray
and CheezWhiz

Now it's not as simple as just aiming a can of CheezWhiz at the motion.
The first thing you need to do is dampen the motion with a light mist
of water. If you are trying to do this without being seen then you can
use a trick carnation or perhaps a mini water pistol.
Allow 5 minutes for excess fluids to drain from the motion and then
shoot the CheezWhiz right into the eye of the device.
What will happen is the motion will be blinded for a few hours.

If it's a pet immune motion then CheezWhiz won't work but RediWhip will

I hope this helps.
Good luck.
 
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Bif

Jan 1, 1970
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meyers95 said:
Does anyone know if it is possible to circumvent a motion detector with
hairspray? I am assuming this would work with a dual technology motion
as well because it takes both technologies to trip. Please let me
know. Thanks
Gov Arnold got mud all over himself in that Predator movie, then the
alien's infrared couldn't "see" him. I would get mud all over my body
first and then use the hairspray as a back up motion difuser.
 
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SantaUK

Jan 1, 1970
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I think you could have thought out of the box with this one, I doubt the OP
is talking about when the system is armed (surely!). Several years ago, the
Police believed that a member of staff in a store had sprayed the detectors
in the office during the day with some form of coating that masked the
detectors. Then had fitted magnets to the contacts. Locked up the store at
the end of the day, and then came back in the middle of the night and
emptied the safe of £13,000. Obvioulsy the alarm log showed that no one had
unset the alarm and there were no activations. They never quite got to the
bottom of that one.
 
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J.

Jan 1, 1970
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I think you could have thought out of the box with this one, I doubt the OP
is talking about when the system is armed (surely!). Several years ago, the
Police believed that a member of staff in a store had sprayed the detectors
in the office during the day with some form of coating that masked the
detectors. Then had fitted magnets to the contacts. Locked up the store at
the end of the day, and then came back in the middle of the night and
emptied the safe of £13,000. Obvioulsy the alarm log showed that no one had
unset the alarm and there were no activations. They never quite got to the
bottom of that one.

Just goes to show you that halfass security works half the time. A
properly designed and installed solution using antimasking PIR's, BMS
door contacts, line security, a secured CCTV system, and two factor
electronic access control can solve almost all security issues.
 
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Everywhere Man

Jan 1, 1970
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G. Morgan said:
Are you the same idiot wanting to know how to defeat a TLM? <

He's waiting for the Sunday paper to clip CheezWhiz and RediWhip coupons
 
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meyers95

Jan 1, 1970
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A facility was broken into and the integrator told us someone on the
inside spayed hairspray or another substance on the unit to prevent it
from going off later that night, during the break in.
 
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meyers95

Jan 1, 1970
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Thank You for the help. This is what i was told probably happened,
just trying to verify if this is legit.
 
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Crash Gordon

Jan 1, 1970
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Have your alarmco install anti-masking motion detectors.



|A facility was broken into and the integrator told us someone on the
| inside spayed hairspray or another substance on the unit to prevent it
| from going off later that night, during the break in.
|
|
| Roland Moore wrote:
| > Hair Spray? How old are you? Let's assume it did work for a moment.
Explain
| > how you would deploy the hairspray without the can, your hand and the
rest
| > of your carcass being attached to the hairspray can entering the
protected
| > area? And the second part of the dual tech is going to love that metal
can.
| > For the record it is an x,y graph with delta temp and delta time for the
| > first part and doppler rf microware for the secord. The circuits of the
| > pyrolytic element adjust sensitivity to the ambient temperature. If you
try
| > to defeat an alarm system from the detector level with your technique
(or
| > most any other) you'll have a long time in prison to get your degree in
| > physics so this will all make sense.
| >
| > | > > Does anyone know if it is possible to circumvent a motion detector
with
| > > hairspray? I am assuming this would work with a dual technology
motion
| > > as well because it takes both technologies to trip. Please let me
| > > know. Thanks
| > >
|
 
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SantaUK

Jan 1, 1970
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You will laugh at this one. No security devices on the safe, and the key -
kept in the top drawer of the non lockable filing cabinet. They know it was
an inside job - but hey, they couldn't prove who it was because of the lack
of "sensible" security precautions in the store. And everyone turned up for
work and no one disappeared!

Well that was a nice little earner for someone - but I bet things have
changed in there!
 
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