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PIC PULSIN statement and pin connection to external V+

Discussion in 'Electronic Basics' started by John Popelish, Dec 21, 2004.

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  1. Rubicon wrote:
    (snip)
    Maybe something like that will work, but that advice was for an input
    derived directly from the hot side of the AC power line. And he was
    trying to determine the zero crossing time, so he wanted the swing to
    take place as soon as possible after the line voltage passed through
    zero volts.

    You may be able to reduce a logic swing of 13.8 volts to PIC supply
    range with a simple voltage divider. I am not clear on what a cross
    over switch is. Are you talking about hall effect motor position
    switches?
     
  2. Rubicon

    Rubicon Guest

    Hello,

    Can anyone help me here with the PULSIN command using PICBASIC PRO on
    a 16F84A pic? I'm not asking because I'm too lazy to read and learn
    but because I'm getting more and more muddled as each night passes by
    and have tried so many different things that I'm getting lost.

    I just can't seem to get it working right if at all and it's really
    getting me mad now. I want it to count the pulses on two pins via
    tactile switches and light or extinguish up to 10 LEDs in 1 second
    increments. One TXT file has IF-THEN statements and another has the
    IF-THEN statements within a WHILE-WEND for the count up section at
    least. Haven't progressed past that as I want to get that part working
    first.

    W1 VAR WORD '16bit vairable W1
    W2 VAR WORD '16bit vairable W2
    W3 VAR WORD '16bit vairable W3

    DEFINE PULSIN_ MAX 1000

    W1 = 0 'Zero W1
    PULSIN PORTB.0,1,W1
    W3 = W3 + (W1 * 10) 'Multiply W1 increment count by 10uS and add
    'W1 to W3

    W2 = 0 'Zero w2
    PULSIN PORTB.0,1,W2
    W3 = W3 - (W2 * 10) 'Multiply W2 increment count by 10uS and
    'subtract W2 from W3

    IF W3 >= what?? AND W3 < what?? THEN LED1


    I read that on a 16F84A with a 4MHz crystal the pulse-width returned
    is in 10uS increments so with the 16 bit vairable it's:
    65535 * 10uS = 655350uS or a little over 0.65 seconds

    1,000,000 uS = 1 second
    100,000 increments * 10uS = 1 second

    However the statement:
    PAUSE (period)

    Gives a delay in milliseconds and (period) is also 16 bits so
    PAUSE 1000 is a 1 second delay.

    This confuses me and I am very confused. If both are 16 bits
    then surely PULSIN could count up to a little over a minute like PAUSE
    or is PAUSE not dependent on the clock speed like PULSIN is?

    Another question is what to do with any unused pins. I read somewhere
    but I can't find it again to be sure that it's best to tie each unused
    pin through a resistor to V-. Is this correct?

    In addition I wish to replace the tactile switches at some point and
    connect the pins to a crossover switch controlling a motor powered by
    a 12V (13.8) battery. I read in a previous post reply by John Popelish
    to Richard Swinfen.

    ******************
    Richard Swinfen
    <snip)

    ******************
    John Popelish
    <Snip>
    The networked connections can complicate things, since they are all
    antennas that can feed spikes to the PIC. I big no-no is having any
    connections to the PIC go outside the supply rails, even briefly. The
    specs for the PIC are damage specs, not malfunction specs. You might
    try adding an additional 1 Mohm resistor between the 10 Mohm resistor
    and PIC, with a 4.7 volt zener at the junction of the resistors ot the
    0v rail. This will eliminate any positive input voltage above 4.7
    volts, and will limit the negative current ot a few tenths of a volt
    across 1 Mohm.
    <snip>
    ******************

    I take it that something like this circuit would have to be connected
    to the PICs input pins. Can anyone advise on the best values for a
    13.8 volt battery?

    Any help greatly appreciated.

    Thankyou,

    Andrew.
     
  3. Rubicon

    Rubicon Guest

    John,

    "Crossover switch" is the term used in some documentation to describe
    a DPDT (momentary on, center off, momentary on) switch for controlling
    the forward and reverse of the DC motor. The motor has no other
    connections apart from the V+/V- so I'm needing to make a rough time
    based LED position indicator. This is where the PIC comes in to help
    me learn more about them and programming.

    Thanks,

    Andrew.
     
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