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Discussion in 'Electronic Design' started by [email protected], Aug 21, 2007.

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  1. Guest

    What would the recommended PCB track thickness be for minimal
    temperature rise when carrying a current of 12A rms continuous?

    What are the advantages and disadvantages of using a thicker 3oz
    (105um) track to using a 2oz (70um) track except cost?

    I am trying to fit tracks into a very small transformer core and I
    need the optimum track size and thickness.
     
  2. Eeyore

    Eeyore Guest

    Define minimal !

    2/3 the DC resistance.

    A planar core ?

    Graham
     
  3. Guest

    It seems that the windings I calculated will fit into the core.

    Yes Graham, it is a planar transformer. I want to attach a picture of
    my design but I can't seem to figure out how!

    Can someone please evaluate this:

    12A running through 2oz (70um) of copper tracks with a temp rise of
    10degrees C requires 1.2um trace width? I got that info from
    http://circuitcalculator.com/wordpress/2006/01/31/pcb-trace-width-calculator/.
    It doesn't really match the chart of my PCB manufacturing company.

    According to their chart 12A with a temp rise of 100degrees C I
    require a 2.5mm track width at 70um?
     
  4. Why don't you lay the track down any thickness/width you find reasonable and
    solder a #10 wire over the top of it?

    Jim
     
  5. Steve

    Steve Guest

    A width chart from Mil 275 appears here:
    http://www.boarddesignnow.com/index_pg3.html


    Steve
     

  6. Hmmm. Sounds pretty much^2 too small...

    Lets calc (sorry for the european units ;-)...

    Cu has a rho=1.72E-8Ohm/m.

    Your profile has 105E-6 x 70E-6 m^2 = ~7E-9 m^2

    The resistance of a 1m piece would have 2.34Ohm, one inch has approx.
    0.06Ohm. (R = rho * length/section; 1m == 39,37")

    With a current of 12amps rms this would give a power dissipation of
    approx. 8W per inch. (P=I^2*R)

    This simply can't fit!


    Heinz
     
  7. Rich Grise

    Rich Grise Guest

    Get the thickest copper plating you can get, within reason. I
    once bought a board with 4 oz copper - I don't know if it comes
    any thicker than that.

    Good Luck!
    Rich
     
  8. When designing power electronics you should worry more about power loss and
    voltage drop. If this is done the temperature rise will not be significant.
    The PCB trace width calculators are designed for single layer boards with
    only trace area surface convection cooling. In multi layer PCB much of the
    trace heat is conducted to other layers and in shorter traces to their end
    points. Those calculators also do not include trace length which is absurd!
    I normally allow 12.0mV per trace voltage drop. This yields a A*12mW power
    loss and a 12.5mV/amp trace resistance. If this is done then the temp rise
    in any trace of any length will be less than 2.5C. In any trace you know how
    long it must be so you need only calculate its width. Use this formula:

    W=L*A/25*oz where W +L = trace width + length in inches.
    A = amps oz = cu thickness 1oz =1.4m"

    So for your situation you have 12A and 2oz and I will assign a 1.50" trace
    length and not worry about temperature rise, so:
    W= 1.5*12/25*2 = 0.36" = 9.14mm Contrary to popular belief, In PCBs,
    length is important!
    Cheers,
    Harry
     
  9. Eeyore

    Eeyore Guest

    Well ...... a planar transformer usually has a multilayer construction and the
    typical calculators don't do this. They also tend to assume ready radiation to
    free air and the core's going to get in the way here.

    I suspect 2.5mm of 70um (2 oz) copper should be OK though.

    Graham
     
  10. Eeyore

    Eeyore Guest

    " #10 wire " almost certainly won't fit inside a planar core.

    Graham
     
  11. Eeyore

    Eeyore Guest

    You got the 'profile' wrong. It's not 105 x 70 um.

    Graham
     
  12. Guest

    Graham,

    Can I ask you a few question via email?
     
  13. Oops :)

    Loos like I've read too fast thru the posting, sorry.
    105um is the 3oz Cu layer thickness... got it now ;)

    Heinz
     
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