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  1. Guest

    I've recently created my first PCB design in Protel and need to find a
    company to produce it. The board is 114x114mm and double-sided, and I
    would like to have a solder mask applied. I thought of Futurlec
    (www.futurlec.com) but at about AU$80 including postage it seems a bit
    expensive. I don't know a lot about the price of PCB manufacture, but
    is there anywhere I can order this board at a lower price? I'd
    probably prefer to order within Australia mainly because of postage
    time and cost.
    Thanks,
    Jack Valmadre
     
  2. I've recently created my first PCB design in Protel and need to find a
    company to produce it. The board is 114x114mm and double-sided, and I
    would like to have a solder mask applied. I thought of Futurlec
    (www.futurlec.com) but at about AU$80 including postage it seems a bit
    expensive. I don't know a lot about the price of PCB manufacture,


    **** By your own admission you don't know a lot about the price of PCB
    manufacure!

    Therefore,why do you think "about AUD80 INCLUDING POSTAGE seems a bit
    expensive???

    The mind boggles!!

    Brian Goldsmith.
     
  3. Guest

    Several people on a discussion group thought it seemed a bit
    overpriced, and it is a fair amount of money to me for this sort of
    thing. However they either made their own PCB's or ordered in larger
    quantities.
    I forgot to mention in the original post that I only want one board
    made up.
    Jack
     
  4. Unbeliever

    Unbeliever Guest

    Wow, does that include setup? Yepp, just looked. Prices certainly have
    come down in the last few years. Last time I got a single (well, 5 was the
    same price) PCB made was about $300, and I thought that was cheap! I don't
    know how these people can make a profit on these small quantities. I guess
    it's being subsidised by their larger orders, which they hope you'll one day
    become. You're getting a pretty good deal.

    Take a tip, get 2 made. You'll want the second one (blank) to look at while
    you're debugging the first (loaded).

    Cheers,
    Alf
     
  5. Yes futurlec is cheap. I bet they make the boards in indonesia. I have
    ordered from them before and the parts I think came from korea directly.
     
  6. Phil Allison

    Phil Allison Guest


    ** You would have done very well sending small boys down coal mines the
    K - back 200 years ago.

    Or, maybe managing sweat shops in modern Thailand that employ 9 year olds
    for next to no pay for 14 hours per day.



    ** Yeah - try rural China where parents sell their kids into prostitution
    & for body parts.

    But you will have to bribe a few officials first.


    ** You disgust me.






    ........... Phil
     
  7. Guest

    Alright thanks for filling me in on this.
     
  8. You won't get a board made in Australia for anywhere near that price.
    Futurlec are one of the cheapest around.

    You might like to try EzPCB:
    http://www.pcbonline.org/
    There are others as well, but I don't have details to hand.

    Making a board, especially a PTH solder mask one is an expensive and
    time consuming process. If you want it cheaper, do it yourself, but you
    won't get PTH or solder mask.

    Cheap services like Futulec are available because they combine your
    design with others and make it on one large panel, thus sharing the
    cost around.

    Want one made by a local supplier? try $300. Want one made in a hurry
    (1-2 days)? add another few hundred bucks.

    Postage time is nothing, they ship by plane these days :->

    Dave :)
     
  9. Terry Given

    Terry Given Guest

    All true. And dont forget the cost associated with a DIY non-PTH PCB,
    wherein you will spend all hours (days) tracking down dodgy DIY vias and
    solder shorts (no solder mask). If, of course, your time is worth
    anything (many hobbyists dont think so)

    $80 is astonishingly cheap - I would have budgeted $200 - $300 here in NZ.

    Cheers
    Terry
     
  10. Alan

    Alan Guest

    I normally budget about $300.00 dollars for two panels 8 inches x 12
    inches.

    You might try Jemal PCB in Perth (Tel: 08 9356 1997). They were
    talking about offering a prototyping service for one off boards but I
    would say the cost would still be about $80.00 and you will have to
    wait until they get enough protos to batch together for production.

    Alan

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  11. I have some boards on the way from www.olimex.com in Bulgaria at the
    moment. They do 160mmx100mm for $US33, plus $US9 airmail, which is
    $AU56 at the moment. They'll depanelise using a v-groove (rectangular
    only) - my order is 42 boards 1"x2" with solder mask both sides and
    silk-screen on the top, which comes to $AU205. Fantastically good
    price! No setup cost and they even panelise and depanelise for you.
    Online ordering with credit card payment confirmed by a fax. They
    take Eagle .BRD files directly, or RS274-X and Excellon/S&M drill files.

    Clifford Heath.
     
  12. budgie

    budgie Guest

    ????? boards are made in Thailand ........
     
  13. sideshow bob

    sideshow bob Guest

    you could try RCS DESIGN
     
  14. Parmin

    Parmin Guest

    "sideshow bob" <> while reading the
    NewsGroups, found courage and express out opinion in
    And got lectured by Bob for free.
     
  15. For sure.
    The advantage of DIY though is that you can have the board within an
    hour or two, which is sometimes quicker than just raising the purchase
    order within some organisations :->

    If you know you are going to make it yourself then you'll often design
    the board to suit DIY. Surface mount means less holes to drill, (some
    boards can have NO HOLES at all which is really nice) and you can use
    components legs as vias etc.

    You can't beat a proper PTH solder mask board though, $80 is dirt cheap
    and well worth it, even for the serious hobbyist these days.

    Dave :)
     
  16. **** you are smart
    Ahh, dickhead, read the first line you wrote.
    Yes it does. Why do you always post the blatent obvious??
    **** off dickweed. Try posting something useful for once in your life.
     
  17. **** off dickweed. Try posting something useful for once in your life.

    **** OK,I will.

    It is blatantly obvious you cannot spell correctly and you are a very
    abusive person.
    How's that?

    Brian Goldsmith.

    PS. The mind still boggles!
     
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