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Discussion in 'Electronic Design' started by Leon Heller, Dec 27, 2004.

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  1. Leon Heller

    Leon Heller Guest

    Have a look at Easy-PC:

  2. Rolavine

    Rolavine Guest

    Subject: Re: PCB Design/Layout Software
    Traxmaker is a dead end, Protel seems to have no interest in maintaining a low
    end product at all. I have no idea why they bought microcode the outfit that
    bought the non exclusive rights to the older Protel Dos PCB package that they
    made the Windows ported Traxmaker out of. Traxmaker has not been updated to run
    on Windows XP, and even produces some errors under Windows ME.

    I recently started working with Easy-PC because a client uses it, very
    impressed with it, and it's pretty cheap too. I think it may be the 'best
    cheapest' out there right now. Their demo version is terrible though as you
    can't save anything. Eagles demo, and many others, allow you to do small
    designs for free.

  3. Bob Eldred

    Bob Eldred Guest

    Have a look at ExpressPCB. They have a free schematic cad program and a free
    board layout program. You order boards directy from them, on line, and their
    prices are not bad. It's great for small boards and small runs.
  4. ssparling

    ssparling Guest

    Try using Electronics Workbench, Iuse it to test all my projects.
  5. Joerg

    Joerg Guest

    Hi Rocky,
    But only for non-profit uses. I just bought Eagle and it's not expensive.

    The regular copy of their limited 'Light Version' is just $49 plus
    shipping and tax in the US, I believe a wee bit more in Europe. Pretty
    good for what you can do with it. Also, when buying a license you get a
    nice handbook which is much easier than fumbling through a huge pdf
    file. Well, I guess you could print it out but that'll consume quite
    some money for toner or ink.

    Regards, Joerg
  6. Wayne

    Wayne Guest

  7. JeffM

    JeffM Guest

    A very good freeware EAGLE
    Folks sure do throw arond that word *free* a lot.
    This is properly called Hobbyist Demoware. (I almost said hobbiest.)
    No *functions* have been crippled,
    but the free version does 80mm x 100mm 2-layer boards maximum.
    For many folks that is enough.
    A biz (legally) needs to plunk down $50 to use it to make products.

    To get 160mm x 100mm & 4 layers is $200 (layout module);
    the demo Schematic Editor will still work (sorta
    --batch files to swap registered/demoware password).

    Full usability is $400 per module;
    licence only what you need or go hog-wild.

    ....but yeah. It's good stuff.
    At this point someone usually mentions
    the not-like-usual-Windoze-apps interface
    (which takes some getting used to).

    OTOH, gEDA/PCB is/are gratis (and libre) and will run under CYGWIN
    (or natively under Linux--again, free):*-libre+Eric+Raymond
  8. Rolavine

    Rolavine Guest

    Subject: Re: PCB Design/Layout Software
    OK, I was only pointing out that Easy PC's demo program is useless for doing
    any real work, while Eagles is not.

    I used to hate Eagle because it wouldn't do things it should like make print
    outs, but I have a few clients that use it so I'm stuck. The latest versions
    are pretty damn good though. I like Easy PC better though and it is also pretty
    cheap for a basic set of tools.

  9. Jim Douglas

    Jim Douglas Guest

    I am looking for something basic to use at home for small projects. I have
    downloaded a few examples, PCB Wizard I like, Eagle Layout Editor seems too
    much. Has anyone used the PCB Wizard product? Any other recommendations?

    I am also using the student version of CircuitMaker, which is GREAT! I
    understand at one time it had with it a product "TraxMaker"? but sure can't
    find it in the version I have?

    Jim Douglas
  10. JeffM

    JeffM Guest

    I used to hate Eagle because it wouldn't do things it should
    Never had any problems
    getting EAGLE to print what I told it to.
    Sounds like operator error.
  11. Troy Curtiss

    Troy Curtiss Guest

    One additional note about Cadsoft's Eagle product. The freeware/light
    editions are fine for simple boards, but limit you to 1 schematic sheet
    and 2 layers (100x80mm area max.) If you need a little more complexity
    for your project and aren't using it to make money (eg. hobby or
    academic use), they have a single-user 'non-profit' version that is
    equivalent to their 'standard' version (4 layers, 160x100mm area, unltd.
    sch. sheets) for $125 US.

  12. Henk Boonsma

    Henk Boonsma Guest

    Eagle is by far the best package out there. The rest is mostly junk which
    fools people into thinking it's easy to use just because it has a
    Windows-like interface. Eagle does require some learning but if you read the
    tutorial manual you will be fine and in the end you will be much more
    productive with the Eagle interface.
  13. Paul Burke

    Paul Burke Guest

    I've been using it a few years, and while it has its faults, for the
    fairly limited PCB work I do myself, I'm not going to change.

    But use "save all" very frequently indeed if you want to preserve your
    immortal soul, as cussers go to hell.

    Paul Burke
  14. WayneL

    WayneL Guest

  15. Mark

    Mark Guest

    I took a look at WinQcad recently and thought it had some
    possibilities. However, no matter how good it is, I've ruled it out due
    to my recent experience with asking a question on their bulletin board.
    My post to their board was removed by the program author because he
    didn't understand the question, there were errors with the grammar, and
    the message was posted to the wrong category. No attempt was made to
    ask for clarification, and no users could have possibly responded since
    none where allowed to see the message. The author mentioned through
    email that if he doesn't understand what a message is asking that none
    of the users would either. I don't mean to flame WinQcad...I just
    wanted to mention my one and only experience when asking for input.
    Your mileage may vary.
  16. Jim Douglas

    Jim Douglas Guest

    I hate that stuff, I have sent messages to some things like that and they
    never show up. I asked and they said "Most users would not be interested in
    that!", I said bullshi%%!!
  17. Mark

    Mark Guest

    Yeah, the experience is still bugging me. Granted, the bulletin borad
    does belong to the author, but the bulletin board link does say
    "discuss the PCB software with other WinQcad users". That's kinda hard
    to do when the arrogant SOB author removes posts.

  18. JeffM

    JeffM Guest

    [5 levels of top-posted stuff that says
    The Cadsoft guys handle this by having 2 newsgroups:
    1 ostensibly for user-to-user
    and 1 ostensibly for asking the company guys.
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