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William Sommerwerck

Jan 1, 1970
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I'm not a cocksucker. And I was making a joke.
Just like the rest of the politicans: repeat a lie enough
and it becomes true. So keep saying it: "It was a joke..."


If you can't see the intentional humor in...
A gyroscope isn't an insect, you moron.

....what can I say?
 
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PeterD

Jan 1, 1970
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I did not screw up. Shall we whip out our vocabularies and see whose is
larger? I have two printed copies of the OED (plus the digital 2nd),
thesauri galore, etc. I am a word-lover -- a logophile -- of more than
50-years' standing. What are /your/ qualifications?

I should have learned by now that any attempt at even fairly obvious humor
on UseNet almost always fails.

And how many definitions for moron does your dictionary have? One word
managed to change what could have been a joke into a wonderful display
of stupidity.
 
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William Sommerwerck

Jan 1, 1970
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I'm not a cocksucker. And I was making a joke.
Try "I am the moron..." and admit you messed up? <g>

I guess it's okay for the OP to say "you fucking idiot", and be excused,
hmmm?

It took me many years to learn that I didn't know everything, and that I
wasn't smarter than everyone else. Unfortunately, in my old age I am having
to unlearn the latter.
 
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mm

Jan 1, 1970
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I guess it's okay for the OP to say "you fucking idiot", and be excused,
hmmm?

I know you didn't mean me, but for the record I was the OP and didn't
say that. You meant the OCP or the OBP, the Original Crackpot Poster
or the Original Berserk Poster.
 
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mm

Jan 1, 1970
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I did not screw up. Shall we whip out our vocabularies and see whose is
larger? I have two printed copies of the OED (plus the digital 2nd),
thesauri galore, etc. I am a word-lover -- a logophile -- of more than
50-years' standing. What are /your/ qualifications?

I should have learned by now that any attempt at even fairly obvious humor
on UseNet almost always fails.

SDNWOTN and often HDNWOTN. Sarcasm does not work on the net.
 
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David Nebenzahl

Jan 1, 1970
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SDNWOTN and often HDNWOTN. Sarcasm does not work on the net.

I disagree; it can work, and often does, but it requires a certain
intelligence on the part of both writer and reader.

Myself, I don't use smiley faces. If anyone needs that kind of crutch to
discern humor, they're beyond hope.
 
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William Sommerwerck

Jan 1, 1970
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I know you didn't mean me, but for the record I was the OP and didn't
say that. You meant the OCP or the OBP, the Original Crackpot Poster
or the Original Berserk Poster.

Thank you for clarifying that. I don't like to assign blame where none is
due.
 
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Jeffrey D Angus

Jan 1, 1970
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David said:
Myself, I don't use smiley faces. If anyone needs that kind
of crutch to discern humor, they're beyond hope.

"Emoticons are the wheel chair ramps for the humor impaired."

Jeff
 
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William Sommerwerck

Jan 1, 1970
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Agreed, I'm going to STFU now...

Good. Let's all do it.
 
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David Nebenzahl

Jan 1, 1970
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I actually think that you are quite wrong on this one. American humour is
totally different from British humour, and mistakes as to the intent of a
comment, are often made on both sides. This is likely to be all the more so
for non-native English speakers. Also, it is very difficult to convey
'barbed' humour by the written word alone, and something of this type that
may be actually spoken with humourous intent, and recognised as such by
vocal intonation and facial expression, will not be so recognised when just
written, and may appear, incorrectly, to be an offensive comment. We have
seen this on here many times over the years, sometimes leading to protracted
and vicious flame wars. The simple addition of a smiley face to the piece of
text, totally eliminates this type of misconception.

Nah; it's just a crutch.

And I said that humor in this medium *can* work, not that it always
does. The chance that Brits and Yanks might not catch each other's humor
doesn't disprove anything.

Perhaps good to keep in mind that all those wits and savants from the
Algonquin Round Table managed to quite successfully convey humor in the
written word, a long time before anyone ever thought of using
parentheses and colons as sideways symbols.
 
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mm

Jan 1, 1970
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Nah; it's just a crutch.

And I said that humor in this medium *can* work, not that it always
does. The chance that Brits and Yanks might not catch each other's humor
doesn't disprove anything.

Perhaps good to keep in mind that all those wits and savants from the
Algonquin Round Table managed to quite successfully convey humor in the
written word, a long time before anyone ever thought of using
parentheses and colons as sideways symbols.

Maybe we should read some of their material and find out how. I don't
think I have, but still, I think they spent more words at it than
posters to use net do.
 
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William Sommerwerck

Jan 1, 1970
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Whether you believe so or not David, humourous writing *is*
difficult, and beyond the skill sets of many professional writers,
let alone amateur ones, and if the simple addition of a smiley
helps anyone to get a humourous point across without causing
offence to anyone with any native language, then I fail to see
what the difficulty is with that.

Arfa, I appreciate your attempt to intelligently and considerately smooth
over this fracas. But I neither started it, nor made it worse. The latter
was the fault of people who open their mouths before thinking -- something I
am occasionally guilty of, myself. You can spot these people by the hissing
noise as air enters their empty heads.

The difficulty, Arfa, is that I don't like having to explain my humor. Call
that unreasonable, even call that arrogant or even irresponsible, but humor
that needs explanation is not humor. I enjoy subtlety, and the pleasure of
sudden recognition. I would prefer to eat cream pies than throw them.

People conveniently forget that "you moron" was in (humorous?) respsonse to
an obscenity in the preceding post, and directed at that poster. Apparently,
it's okay for other people to say such things seriously, but I'm raked over
the coals when I do it in jestingly in response.

As for the members of the Algonquin Round Table (who apparently called
themselves The Vicious Circle)... these people were (largely) literary
humorists (Benchley, Parker, Kaufman, et al.) who wrote material that was
presumed to be intentionally funny. UseNet posts lack that context, and I
refuse to provide it with emoticons. It should also be noted that some of
these people were pretty vicious (Dorothy Parker, in particular) and
delighted in putting down others, even if only by trying to be more clever.
(Parker even said "The Round Table was just a lot of people telling jokes
and telling each other how good they were. Just a bunch of loudmouths
showing off, saving their gags for days, waiting for a chance to spring
them.... There was no truth in anything they said. It was the terrible day
of the wisecrack, so there didn't have to be any truth.")

None of you will believe this, but I have a self-deprecating sense of humor.
I used to belong to a social club in Seattle, and sat on its board of
directors. Whenever I poked fun at myself, the then-president would use it
as an excuse to dump on me. (I never asked why.) Around the third time this
happened, the other board members went for his throat, and he stopped.

Am I a chrome-plated jerk? I used to be, and I /think/ I've mostly outgrown
it. But I'm not embarrassed calling most people wit-less, because it's true
of Americans. We're seeing this right now, in the fracas over health-care
legislation. The problem isn't that there are legitimate differences over
how or even whether the health-care system should be modified, but the fact
that most Americans are unwilling to sit down and carefully consider all
sides of an issue. You cannot have a democracy in which the citizens refuse
to think! It's this knee-jerk, politically partisan reaction to everything
(from both left and right) that will eventually destroy American government
and society. We are well-along the path that Ronald Reagan set us on 30
years ago. But then, it's what Americans want, and so-richly deserve.

In closing (thank God!)... We all have to decide what sort of persons we
want to be, then make an effort to be them. I've reached the point where
it's time to stop being clever (at least among people I don't know) and
stick with being nice. I'm to here to learn, and to make constructive
suggestions. And nothing else.

I'm sure some people will have something nasty and mean-spirited to say
about this.
 
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Jeffrey D Angus

Jan 1, 1970
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William said:
But I neither started it, nor made it worse.

I'm sure some people will have something nasty and mean-
spirited to say about this.

Well actually you did start this with your entomology
comment, then the furious back-pedaling to claim it was
a joke.

Jeff
 
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William Sommerwerck

Jan 1, 1970
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But I neither started it, nor made it worse.
Well actually you did start this with your entomology
comment, then the furious back-pedaling to claim it was
a joke.

You seem to be determined to provoke me to say even more unkind things. So
be it.

If I could give you the sensation of having your mouth smashed in with a
baseball bat -- without actually doing you any physical harm -- I would do
so, because you badly need it.

Do you think I don't know the difference between entomology and etymology?
Would you like to see the dictionaries and thesauruses I keep next to my
computer, so I can look up a word? I'm working on an historical novel, and I
check the OED (Know what that is? No, of course not.) to see whether a word
was in use during the time of the story. Very handy.

So please cut the crap, huh? There aren't many people who have/had a better
vocabulary than I. (Jacques Barzun and William F. Buckley come to mind. You
probably don't even know who Barzun is.)
 
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William Sommerwerck

Jan 1, 1970
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Some of use have known Willaim for years, and know
his dry sense of humor. You should talk to him in person,
or on the phone some time. :)

Thank you. It is appreciated.

Now, let's get back to what this group is about. I have no desire to ever
again break the peace of this group.
 
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David Nebenzahl

Jan 1, 1970
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People conveniently forget that "you moron" was in (humorous?) respsonse to
an obscenity in the preceding post, and directed at that poster. Apparently,
it's okay for other people to say such things seriously, but I'm raked over
the coals when I do it in jestingly in response.

Absotively. William deserves the benefit of the doubt here. To recap:

[sound of tape recorder rewinding]

Meatplow: Why don't you look up the etymology of the word,
you fucking idiot?

William: A gyroscope isn't an insect, you moron.

Where I come from, this gets filed under "giving as good as you get".
Ackshooly, I thought William's "you moron" a rather mild comeback.
I'm sure some people will have something nasty and mean-spirited to say
about this.

Not from here.
 
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mm

Jan 1, 1970
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You seem to be determined to provoke me to say even more unkind things. So
be it.

If I could give you the sensation of having your mouth smashed in with a
baseball bat -- without actually doing you any physical harm -- I would do
so, because you badly need it.

Do you think I don't know the difference between entomology and etymology?
Would you like to see the dictionaries and thesauruses I keep next to my
computer, so I can look up a word? I'm working on an historical novel, and I
check the OED (Know what that is? No, of course not.) to see whether a word
was in use during the time of the story. Very handy.

So please cut the crap, huh? There aren't many people who have/had a better
vocabulary than I. (Jacques Barzun and William F. Buckley come to mind. You
probably don't even know who Barzun is.)
Didn't he run the Barzun and Baily circus?
 
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