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  1. Jim Thompson

    Jim Thompson Guest

    In my attempt to "bullet-proof" the playroom for my autistic grandson
    I want to replace all the drawer pulls.

    Right now they stick out and he climbs them right up to the ceiling
    :-(

    In the far past I've seen little metal "cups" that you recess. To
    open the drawer you stick your finger into the "cup"

    But I'm coming up zero by surfing.

    I'm probably not surfing with the right wording.

    Any ideas?

    Thanks!

    ...Jim Thompson
     
  2. Fred Bloggs

    Fred Bloggs Guest

    recessed drawer pulls
     
  3. John B

    John B Guest


    A Google on "Recessed Drawer Pull" revealed these:

    http://www.binkyswoodworking.com/RecessedHandles.html


    and "Flush Ring Pull" revealed these:

    http://www.vandykes.com/subcategory/57/

    Also this one is useful:


    http://www.woodworking-news.com/woodworking/hardware/knobs_pulls_and_han
    dles.shtml


    HTH
     
  4. I couldn't find much either.

    One site said they had "furniture" coming.

    http://www.daycaremall.com/special_needs.html
     
  5. Jim Thompson

    Jim Thompson Guest

    What I'm looking for looks like this...

    http://www.myknobs.com/sugflushcolrp30.html

    EXCEPT it has 1/2 of the "cup" overlaid with a flat piece that you can
    get your finger under to pull.

    Figure, as shown, is for DOORS where you are pulling sideways. I need
    a DRAWER pull.

    I need them round because these are existing cabinets that I can't get
    into a milling machine without severe disassembly... I want to simply
    drill with a wood bit.

    ...Jim Thompson
     
  6. Tim Wescott

    Tim Wescott Guest

    6" of gym mat on the floor, and climbing handholds on the wall (screwed
    into the studs with lag screws, of course).

    That'll keep him entertained safely after you take away his current
    climbing wall.
     
  7. Jim Thompson

    Jim Thompson Guest

    Those requires milling that I can't easily accomplish
    That link got me to

    http://search.myknobs.com/cgi-bin/m...e=http://www.myknobs.com/nsearch.html&x=0&y=0

    I'll peruse those pages and see what I can find.

    Thanks!

    ...Jim Thompson
     
  8. Good idea. Though that will likely teach him climbing skills to an
    even greater degree, however.

    Is that going to have a better outcome? ;-]
     
  9. John B

    John B Guest

  10. Jim Thompson

    Jim Thompson Guest

    You have no idea what lengths I've had to go to :-(

    When he started climbing I anchored the cabinets to the wall to keep
    them from turning over and crushing him.

    Where the cabinets met in the corner of the room there was about a 15"
    x 15" hollow.

    He climbed up the cabinet and jumped down into the hollow.

    I had to panic disassemble the cabinets to get him out :-(

    So I made "lids" that I screwed down over any openings.

    ...Jim Thompson
     
  11. John Fields

    John Fields Guest

     
  12. Pulls?

    The Lee Valley hardware catalog shows a bunch that might do the trick-
    there are also the old-style ones that hinge down and other ones that
    protrude somewhat but are curved and smooth. Unfortunately, the
    website isn't near as good as the printed catalog, but you can have a
    look:

    http://www.leevalley.com/hardware/page.aspx?c=2&cat=3,43520&p=43521



    Best regards,
    Spehro Pefhany
     
  13. Tim Wescott

    Tim Wescott Guest

    I have two kids with moderate Asbergers.

    So I have an inkling, but certainly not anything close to a full
    appreciation.

    What's to keep him from pulling each drawer out a bit more from the one
    below and using the newly constructed stairway?

    If you _did_ take away his footholds and replaced it with a climbing
    wall does he function at a high enough level to hold to an agreement not
    to climb, or is the obsession specifically connected to the dresser?

    One thing I've learned with my boys is that sometimes you just have to
    remove any sharp objects in the way and allow the obsession to run its
    course. Trying to shove their little psyches into a box marked "normal"
    just damages their psyches and the box, without resolving the problem.

    Not that I can really say without being there -- you're the one who has
    to actually make things work.
     
  14. xray

    xray Guest

    You can cut any shape recess you need on the assembled drawer front with
    a router that has a template guide attached and a plywood pattern
    clamped onto the drawer front.

    Here is an example of what template guides look like.
    http://www.majormfg.com/router_template_guides.htm

    You cut a pattern into a thin piece of plywood or hardboard. The size
    of the opening is bigger than the recess you need by the thickness of
    the template guide walls. Clamp this pattern on the front of the drawer.
    The overall size of the pattern template needs to be big enough so the
    clamps won't block the outside of the router. You then plunge the router
    bit to the depth of recess needed and follow the inside of the pattern
    to remove the correctly sized opening.

    Here's the best example of the process that I was able to find in a
    quick search.
    http://www.sommerfeldtools.com/tutorial-inlaykit.asp

    If your opening happens to need square corners, you finish by hand with
    a wood chisel.

    This should give you more choices for the hardware.
     
  15. Jim,

    Try "flush ring pull".

    The model 425 and 426 on this web page -
    http://www.mvmlocks.com/IH_fp.html has a picture of what I think you are
    describing. They didn't have prices but I'll bet other sites will.

    Good hunting.
     
  16. Joerg

    Joerg Guest

    Hello Jim,
    I don't know what style your furniture is. There are some pulls that
    require the drilling of a larger hole and are then screwed in. Most are
    in an 'ocean liner' decor. On ships they are probably meant to prevent
    hitting yourself when things get rough, to make sure that even drawer
    surfaces are flush. To pull a drawer you have to flip out a ring and
    then pull that. Most are way too small to wedge a foot in there for
    climbing.

    If a standard spade drill doesn't fit there are hole saw adapters you
    can buy cheaply for the electric drill (and then drill sloooowly). First
    a pilot hole, then the hole saw adapter.

    It doesn't show much detail but IIRC they look like this:
    http://www.knobs4less.com/rkiflushcolcf5241.html

    Says routing in the text but the ones I saw were round in the back.

    Then, of course, you'd still have to lock the drawers somehow or your
    grandson might pull them out in staggered fashion and use that as a ladder.

    Regards, Joerg
     
  17. That's even worse than a potential fall, because the chest could
    topple on top of him and suffocate him.

    Apparently that kills a substantial number of kids-- when our kid was
    small I remember some recalls of furniture because it was too easily
    toppled.

    It even got two at a time in a freak acident in the UK:
    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/allnew...d-to-death-by-chest-of-drawers-name_page.html


    Best regards,
    Spehro Pefhany
     
  18. Jim Thompson

    Jim Thompson Guest

    [snip]

    You missed my post where I said the cabinets are anchored to the
    walls.

    BTW, The drawers ARE also locked.

    ...Jim Thompson
     
  19. Jim Thompson

    Jim Thompson Guest

    I'n VERY tolerant of kids... the only way our sons made it to adult.

    My wife would be steamed and I'd be laughing... made for a few tense
    moments with the wife ;-)

    ...Jim Thompson
     
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