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Robert Baer

Jan 1, 1970
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OK, i took the plunge in "filtering" messages.
But it does not work; some i tagged as "mark as read" and others
"delete".
I even closed the browser (Netscape 7.2) and re-started it.
My experience so far is that "filters" is, to be polite, fantasy.

Any ideas / suggestions as how to do it?
 
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Rich Grise

Jan 1, 1970
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OK, i took the plunge in "filtering" messages.
But it does not work; some i tagged as "mark as read" and others
"delete".
I even closed the browser (Netscape 7.2) and re-started it.
My experience so far is that "filters" is, to be polite, fantasy.

Any ideas / suggestions as how to do it?

Click "Help" in the menu bar?

Good Luck!
Rich
 
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Robert Baer

Jan 1, 1970
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Rich said:
Click "Help" in the menu bar?

Good Luck!
Rich
I set them up via the Tools pulldown menu and selected Message
Filters, and filled out the requisite info.
On shutting down the browser and re-launching it, i verified the
filters existed and the "enabled" checkbox was checked.
Of what possible use is the so-called "help" file?
Almost all help files are useless to begin with, and in this case it
appears i did everything OK.
If need, i could do screen shots of the filter windows and post those
on ABSE.
Other suggestions?
 
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Joerg

Jan 1, 1970
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Robert said:
OK, i took the plunge in "filtering" messages.
But it does not work; some i tagged as "mark as read" and others
"delete".
I even closed the browser (Netscape 7.2) and re-started it.
My experience so far is that "filters" is, to be polite, fantasy.

Any ideas / suggestions as how to do it?


If it's any comfort, it doesn't work in Mozilla either. For email, yes.
For newsgroups, no. I guess newsgroups aren't high on the pecking order
these days when it comes to SW projects.

A real stand-alone newsreader is probably a lot better but I haven't
taken the plunge yet. If these bar fights here on usente continue I
guess I'll have to.
 
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Rich Grise

Jan 1, 1970
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If it's any comfort, it doesn't work in Mozilla either. For email, yes.
For newsgroups, no. I guess newsgroups aren't high on the pecking order
these days when it comes to SW projects.

A real stand-alone newsreader is probably a lot better but I haven't
taken the plunge yet. If these bar fights here on usente continue I
guess I'll have to.

You could try pan, but if you're on windoze, it could be a PITA to
install.
http://pan.rebelbase.com/download/

FWIW, a plonk is two mouse-clicks away. Or maybe three - I don't recall,
since it's so not a big deal.

Good Luck!
Rich
 
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John Popelish

Jan 1, 1970
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Joerg said:
If it's any comfort, it doesn't work in Mozilla either. For email, yes.
For newsgroups, no. I guess newsgroups aren't high on the pecking order
these days when it comes to SW projects.

I use filters to read newsgroups with Thunderbird. The only
limitation is that the filter does not react to headers
already loaded. The filter process takes place as new
headers are loaded. I have to mark all messages read to get
rid of the already loaded headers (I display only unread
messages, and filter to mark the filtered message as already
read.)
 
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Robert Baer

Jan 1, 1970
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Joerg said:
If it's any comfort, it doesn't work in Mozilla either. For email, yes.
For newsgroups, no. I guess newsgroups aren't high on the pecking order
these days when it comes to SW projects.

A real stand-alone newsreader is probably a lot better but I haven't
taken the plunge yet. If these bar fights here on usente continue I
guess I'll have to.
Well, that might help to explain why it does not work, despite the
apparent inclusion of message filters.
 
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Robert Baer

Jan 1, 1970
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Rich said:
You could try pan, but if you're on windoze, it could be a PITA to
install.
http://pan.rebelbase.com/download/

FWIW, a plonk is two mouse-clicks away. Or maybe three - I don't recall,
since it's so not a big deal.

Good Luck!
Rich
? "plonk" ?
Have seen the term, but assumed it was another termfor use of filters.
How does one avail of that service, and can i go by terms in message
header?
Does what i do there affect others (hope not as my criteria is
undoubtedly different than anyone else's).
 
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Robert Baer

Jan 1, 1970
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John said:
I use filters to read newsgroups with Thunderbird. The only limitation
is that the filter does not react to headers already loaded. The filter
process takes place as new headers are loaded. I have to mark all
messages read to get rid of the already loaded headers (I display only
unread messages, and filter to mark the filtered message as already read.)
Another possible explaination as to why i saw no effect.
The next day or so will be the key..
Thanks.
 
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Phil Hobbs

Jan 1, 1970
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Robert said:
Well, that might help to explain why it does not work, despite the
apparent inclusion of message filters.

Works fine for me in old Netscape, all the way to the latest available
Mozilla and Seamonkey. All the pork swords are gone, except when a
bored regular feeds the trolls (you know who you are). No misspelled
colours, no chimps, nobody with diapers on their heads, either. *There
is hope.*

One fine point is that if you want the filter to apply to a single
group, you have to make sure to select the right one. You can also
filter all groups on a server.

Another approach is to use individual filters. For instance, here I'm
using Seamonkey, and looking at a post from the poor motherless child
(*sob*). Because I'm too soft hearted to bear it, I go up to the
Message menu, and select "Create filter from message". Up comes the
dialogue box. I leave the search term default, because the term
"Niemadre", while sad, is specific without leaving obvious loopholes.
To avoid messing up the message threading, I choose the action "Mark As
Read" instead of "Delete Message".

If I wanted to include his other multiple personalities, I'd add them to
the top of the dialogue, carefully selecting the "Match any of the
following" radio button.

Now my private world will no longer be disturbed by this poor fellow's
piteous cries for help. Talk about alienation.

Cheers,

Phil Hobbs
 
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Robert Baer

Jan 1, 1970
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Phil said:
Works fine for me in old Netscape, all the way to the latest available
Mozilla and Seamonkey. All the pork swords are gone, except when a
bored regular feeds the trolls (you know who you are). No misspelled
colours, no chimps, nobody with diapers on their heads, either. *There
is hope.*

One fine point is that if you want the filter to apply to a single
group, you have to make sure to select the right one. You can also
filter all groups on a server.

Another approach is to use individual filters. For instance, here I'm
using Seamonkey, and looking at a post from the poor motherless child
(*sob*). Because I'm too soft hearted to bear it, I go up to the
Message menu, and select "Create filter from message". Up comes the
dialogue box. I leave the search term default, because the term
"Niemadre", while sad, is specific without leaving obvious loopholes. To
avoid messing up the message threading, I choose the action "Mark As
Read" instead of "Delete Message".

If I wanted to include his other multiple personalities, I'd add them to
the top of the dialogue, carefully selecting the "Match any of the
following" radio button.

Now my private world will no longer be disturbed by this poor fellow's
piteous cries for help. Talk about alienation.

Cheers,

Phil Hobbs

** Thanks, everybody for the support. **

The filters i applied now seem to work, it seems that all i had to do
was to completely *turn off* the computer.
Since i saw no difference between "mark as read" and "delete
message", i chose the latter.
I would be interested in knowing about that message threading business.

Thanks again.
 
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Rich Grise

Jan 1, 1970
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? "plonk" ?
Have seen the term, but assumed it was another termfor use of filters.

Yes, "to plonk" == "to filter", i.e., you don't see even their headers.
How does one avail of that service, and can i go by terms in message
header?

Well, as I said, in pan, it's just a menu item. And it's got a whole bunch
of criteria that you can filter by. Your newsreader might be different,
I don't really know what features other newsreaders have.
Does what i do there affect others (hope not as my criteria is
undoubtedly different than anyone else's).

It only affects your own newsreader. The schtuff is still there for others
to see or ignore as they choose, but you don't have to plow through mounds
of garbage to get to the posts of interest.

Cheers!
Rich
 
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YD

Jan 1, 1970
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Well, that might help to explain why it does not work, despite the
apparent inclusion of message filters.

Take a look and see if there's an "apply filters now" option.
Otherwise they'll take effect gradually as old messages expire and new
get filtered. Another trick is to make a "watch" filter on people who
usually have something interesting to say.

- YD.
 
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SuperM

Jan 1, 1970
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** Thanks, everybody for the support. **

The filters i applied now seem to work, it seems that all i had to do
was to completely *turn off* the computer.
Since i saw no difference between "mark as read" and "delete
message", i chose the latter.
I would be interested in knowing about that message threading business.

Thanks again.

Filter this bitch.
 
OK, i took the plunge in "filtering" messages.
But it does not work; some i tagged as "mark as read" and others
"delete".
I even closed the browser (Netscape 7.2) and re-started it.
My experience so far is that "filters" is, to be polite, fantasy.

Any ideas / suggestions as how to do it?

What OS/browser/newsreader/other?


Mark L. Fergerson
 
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Michael A. Terrell

Jan 1, 1970
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What OS/browser/newsreader/other?

Mark L. Fergerson


It says "Netscape 7.2" in the quoted text, above. That is an
integrated browser, mail and news client, and a HTML editor package.
Filters only work when new files are being downloaded, they do not have
the ability to delete or mark existing messages as read.


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
 
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SuperM

Jan 1, 1970
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STFU netKKKop.
PPYOS

;)


There is nothing more amusing than seeing a kooktard answering a
fellow klonekooktard as if he was someone else. Open your eyes, boy.

Will there ever be a day when you idiots don't pull such stupid,
petty baby bullshit?
 
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Captain Hook

Jan 1, 1970
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There is nothing more amusing than seeing a kooktard answering a
fellow klonekooktard as if he was someone else. Open your eyes, boy.

Will there ever be a day when you idiots don't pull such stupid,
petty baby bullshit?

Why are you canceling your posts?
Are you ashamed of them?
 
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Niemadre

Jan 1, 1970
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There is nothing more amusing than seeing a kooktard answering a
fellow klonekooktard as if he was someone else. Open your eyes, boy.

Will there ever be a day when you idiots don't pull such stupid,
petty baby bullshit?

Just wait, the fun is only beginning.

--
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GIT-R-DONE!
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#6 Lits Slut
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