# OT: dB\$

Discussion in 'Electronic Design' started by Paul Hovnanian P.E., Sep 14, 2005.

1. ### Paul Hovnanian P.E.Guest

When negotiating a raise or contract terms, how should one express dB
gain?

As: 20*log( New \$ rate/ Current \$ rate ) i.e. as a magnitude
ratio

Or: 10*log( New \$ rate / Current \$ rate ) i.e. as a power ratio

Either way, I anticipate operating into a very high impedance.

2. ### Ken TaylorGuest

Watch out for standing waves.

Ken

3. ### Tim WescottGuest

Careful, that kind of talk could bounce back to you later.

4. ### John WoodgateGuest

I read in sci.electronics.design that Paul Hovnanian P.E.
It's obvious. Money is power.

5. ### Keith WilliamsGuest

20Log(N\$/O\$), since it's a pretax number. Your accountant (and any SO)
will see 10Log(N\$/O\$).

6. ### Ken TaylorGuest

Ouch! Clearly there's a law that says smart alec responses are a
continuing series.

Ken

7. ### Paul Hovnanian P.E.Guest

I thought Knowledge is Power. And Time is Money.

Since Work = Power * Time

Substituting variables, we get:

Work = Knowledge * Money

or:

Money = Work / Knowledge

So, the less you know, the more you get paid for the same amount of
work.

8. ### Rich GriseGuest

One shouldn't, in those circumstances.
Why does this not surprise me? ;-P

Good Luck!
Rich

9. ### Rene TschaggelarGuest

Definitely not. Or do you tolerate -3dB less payment ?

Rene

10. ### John WoodgateGuest

I read in sci.electronics.design that Rene Tschaggelar <>
wrote (in <432943b1\$0\$1154\$>) about 'OT: dB\$',
For me, it's frequency dependent. If you want to pay at lower
frequencies, you have to pay more. 30 days net, 60 days +0.4 dB, 90 days
+ 0.8 dB.

12. ### Winfield HillGuest

John Fields wrote...
ROFLOL.

13. ### John WoodgateGuest

I read in sci.electronics.design that John Fields
That way, half the money stays at the source. The Maximum Dollar Theorem
is a trap for the unwary. One of the two best arrangements for 'maximum
\$\$ received' is like an audio amp output - near zero source impedance
and load impedance 10 to 100 times higher. The other is its dual.