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Discussion in 'Electronic Design' started by Jim Thompson, Oct 1, 2005.

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  1. Jim Thompson

    Jim Thompson Guest

    Trying to avoid cutting another hole in the house walls...

    Does anyone make a COMBINED electrical AND coax (type-F) outlet?

    ...Jim Thompson
     
  2. Fred Bartoli

    Fred Bartoli Guest

    Why don't you design a dedicated multiplexer?
     
  3. Jim Thompson

    Jim Thompson Guest

    Sno-o-o-o-ort ;-)

    ...Jim Thompson
     

  4. Jim, AFAIK most electrical codes frown on putting commercial power &
    low voltage lines (i.e. phone, cable, intercom etc.) in the same box,
    at least if they're not fed from the same source. I'm guessing
    there's a good reason for this-

    That aside if the power common or ground make contact with the cable
    sheath you may end up with some killer hum bars running through
    "Everybody Loves Ramond"

    Hmmm, come to think of it, that may not be such a bad thing :).

    H.
     
  5. Get a normal electrical plate with 2 switches, pop the spare switch
    out and pop a coax connector in....That if the work that way in AZ :)
     
  6. Jim Thompson

    Jim Thompson Guest

    Could be ;-)
    Surfing I've found a plastic box with a partition rated for a low
    voltage device plus an AC device... box, but no components.

    I may just have to bite the bullet and cut another hole, but it's an
    outside wall... thick stucco, not fun, or easy to be neat, to chisel
    out :-(

    ...Jim Thompson
     
  7. Fred Bartoli

    Fred Bartoli Guest

    I just remember:

    A friend of mine had the silly idea to mux hot and cold water in the same
    copper pipe to get warm water into a small room without installing a second
    pipe :)
     

  8. Oh, quit whining. It should be easy for a chisler like you.
     
  9. Chuck Harris

    Chuck Harris Guest

    I really doubt it, NEC frowns upon signaling wires being grouped
    with power wires in a receptical box. They like to see the two
    run at least 1 foot apart in walls.

    -Chuck
     
  10. Lord Garth

    Lord Garth Guest


    I did this with a double box and decora fixtures....Seems they only sell
    phone and coax probably because of the remote possibility of the shield
    contacting the hot side. You can reduce this possibility by keeping the
    coax on the grounded side of the outlet and securing the coax within
    the box.
     
  11. qrk

    qrk Guest

    As people suggested, NEC probably doesn't allow this. Big hassle with
    your insurance company if you should have a fire, even if it's
    unrelated to the combo outlet.

    See if you can get a tungstun carbide blade for a jig saw. I got some
    for my Sawzall when I had to cut ceramic pipe. Just make sure you
    don't cut up any thing important in the walls!
     

  12. And you would still be in violation of multiple electrical codes.
     
  13. Lord Garth

    Lord Garth Guest


    Of that, I am certain but that is what the home owner wanted and for the
    same reason as Jim. I am certain there will be no short as I installed a
    divider in the box.
     
  14. It is illegal to mix low voltage class 2 wiring such as coax and cat5
    with the AC power.
     
  15. Just drill a small round hole for the coax to come thru and mount a
    surface mount box on the wall, and use silicone seal if moisture is a
    problem. There's nothing that says it has to be an electrical outlet
    type faceplate to hold a coax connector. If you insist on a faceplate,
    then mount a Panduit or Wiremold box to hold the faceplate.
     
  16. Chuck Harris

    Chuck Harris Guest

    If you put a divider in the box, then the box will be in violation for
    wire fill size. This is a very bad thing to do in the eyes of the NEC,
    and the insurance companies.

    There are things that you haven't thought of, such as what happens if
    the electrical system undergoes a lightning strike.

    -Chuck
     
  17. Jim Thompson

    Jim Thompson Guest

    That's a good idea, Watson! Three easily drilled holes, one for the
    coax, two to mount the faceplate into plastic anchors.

    Problem solved!

    ...Jim Thompson
     
  18. Jim Thompson

    Jim Thompson Guest

    That apparently is not correct. I HAVE found plastic outlet boxes
    with a molded-in divider, for mixed AC and "low voltage devices".

    ...Jim Thompson
     
  19. John Larkin

    John Larkin Guest

    Why not buy a blank plate and drill a few holes?

    John
     
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