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Mark Fergerson
- Jan 1, 1970
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Jim said:
It's a matter of respective priorities. IOW for each, the
first is mandatory, the second if they can be bothered to
get around to it.
Mark L. Fergerson
Jim said:
It's a matter of respective priorities. IOW for each, the
first is mandatory, the second if they can be bothered to
get around to it.
Here is truth:
Conservatives want to control your life, but will let you keep your money.
Liberals want to control your money, but will let you keep your life.
Gee, we sure see this differently and, of course, point of view is
everything. To me, liberals seem to be the ones who know how everyone else
should live.
---------------------Gee, we sure see this differently and, of course, point of view is
everything. To me, liberals seem to be the ones who know how everyone else
should live. They support ridiculous policies that would quickly turn off
the electricity and the oil supplies.
----------------------------They seldom have a clue as to what
keeps their lights on or their automobiles running.
------------------------------------Conservatives want to shift all the money to their camp. They seldom have
even a single care for disadvantaged folks and have a smug and nasty
tendency to label them with disparaging terms.
----------------------------------Shitty choice (between liberal and conservative), in my humble opinion. I
don't much care for either label and prefer to discuss politics with folks
who understand the scientific method and who like to analyze rather than
spout party line crap.
------------------------------Rich said:That's really weird, because I see it almost exactly the opposite. My
impression was that the liberals don't care what you do with your own
body, but if you get any money, the liberals want you to redistribute
it. The conservatives, however, don't care how much money you get -
the more the merrier, AIUI - but they don't want you to experience
any pleasure, because that's a sin. And, of course, they're God's
morality police on Earth.
Ah, hell, they're ALL god's morality police. And all the rule-based
systems anybody's come up with yet rely on coercion.
And I don't think it's any secret that I espouse enlightened self-
interest, which some call anarchy because they're horrified that
if people aren't ruled with an iron fist, they'll all go on a
fucking spree or something.
Thanks,
Rich
TRUE enlightened self-interest is embodied best in People's Democratic
Communism, which:
1) Equalizes everyone's inheritance at birth of their fair share of
the world built up by all our common ancestors,
2) Which protects the weak from being underpaid and under-advantaged
by the strong,
3) And which grants everyone who works at something we all decide
we want together an equal wage per hour that anyone can achieve and
which anyone can be as well-off as they want,
As long as they don't **** with anyone else's equal opportunity or
cheat anyone unfairly.
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Nonsense.
Conservatives want to keep your wages so low that you can never
afford to oppose thempolitically, invest your money and keep the
interest for themselves, and control your life by extracting monthly
tribute, rent/mortgage, for property that by birthright you should
have inherited.
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No, those are just alarmist lies that the rich tell you to frighten
you out of disempowering them. The rich are NOT the magical reason
why the lights stay on. You'd have to be an ignorant victim-boob-serf
to believe crap like that!
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This delusion on your part indicates that the Right has successfully
brainwashed and terrified you out of voting against them. The Rich
pay vast fortunes to convince people that nothing they can do will
help them, and that everyone who says they will is lying. It's very
important to despirit the slaves.
if people aren't ruled with an iron fist, they'll all go on a
fucking spree or something.
Thanks,
Rich
Rich Grise said:Rich said:On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 18:04:53 -0500, Charles Schuler wrote: []
Gee, we sure see this differently and, of course, point of view is
everything. To me, liberals seem to be the ones who know how everyone else
should live.
That's really weird, because I see it almost exactly the opposite. My
impression was that the liberals don't care what you do with your own
body, but if you get any money, the liberals want you to redistribute
it. The conservatives, however, don't care how much money you get -
the more the merrier, AIUI - but they don't want you to experience
any pleasure, because that's a sin. And, of course, they're God's
morality police on Earth.
Ah, hell, they're ALL god's morality police. And all the rule-based
systems anybody's come up with yet rely on coercion.
And I don't think it's any secret that I espouse enlightened self-
interest, which some call anarchy because they're horrified that
if people aren't ruled with an iron fist, they'll all go on a
fucking spree or something.
Thanks,
Rich
No, no. I said that I "advocate" "enlightened self-interest." As to
whether I'm "enlightened" or not, I think, would depend on one's
definition of "enlightened."
TRUE enlightened self-interest is embodied best in People's Democratic
Communism, which:
1) Equalizes everyone's inheritance at birth of their fair share of
the world built up by all our common ancestors,
2) Which protects the weak from being underpaid and under-advantaged
by the strong,
3) And which grants everyone who works at something we all decide
we want together an equal wage per hour that anyone can achieve and
which anyone can be as well-off as they want,
As long as they don't **** with anyone else's equal opportunity or
cheat anyone unfairly.
Well, you seem to still be stuck on that "it's their responsibility
to feed me" mindset. Get over that, and it's a nice fantasy.
It is true, that it is the responsibility of whichever spirit I'm
the denial of, to undeny me, but that's about seven orders of
dimensionality divorced from the consensus reality.
I learn daily, in spades, that ranting at the oppressor just gives
them excuses for more oppression.
Your error, as I see it, is assuming that the oppressors are rational.
How do you stop an express train? Stand on the tracks and try to face
it down by sheer force of will? Of course not! You get squashed. You
stand alongside, and throw little rocks with intent to annoy the
wheels, and with any luck, derail it.
Thanks,
Rich
to believe crap like that!
Are
you simply too stupid to accept it?
This delusion on your part indicates that the Right has successfully
brainwashed and terrified you out of voting against them.
AH-HA, so Rich, you are a Rational Anarchist! (Heinlein - "Moon is aRich said:That's really weird, because I see it almost exactly the opposite. My
impression was that the liberals don't care what you do with your own
body, but if you get any money, the liberals want you to redistribute
it. The conservatives, however, don't care how much money you get -
the more the merrier, AIUI - but they don't want you to experience
any pleasure, because that's a sin. And, of course, they're God's
morality police on Earth.
Ah, hell, they're ALL god's morality police. And all the rule-based
systems anybody's come up with yet rely on coercion.
And I don't think it's any secret that I espouse enlightened self-
interest, which some call anarchy because they're horrified that
if people aren't ruled with an iron fist, they'll all go on a
fucking spree or something.
Thanks,
Rich
Rich said:Nah. The conservatives see society as an anthill, and the liberals
see it as a flower garden. ;-)
Rich Grise wrote: ....
AH-HA, so Rich, you are a Rational Anarchist! (Heinlein - "Moon is a
Harsh Mistress") Good, we need more of us...
has been shown, repeatedly, for thousands of years, to be futile.
Rich Grise
Dennis said:No, registration for the draft is mandatory, and only for men.
The draft itself is inactive. No one is being drafted NOW.
But Kerry proposed mandatory service for all high school students.
And Democrat Rep. Charles Rangel of NY pushed a bill in Congress
for mandatory military service.
Forced servitude to the state is a common thing in socialist countries,
so it is no surprise that the Democrats are pushing it.
I see no meaning in your response.
Is Israel a socialist country?
How do you stop an express train? Stand on the tracks and try to face
it down by sheer force of will? Of course not! You get squashed. You
stand alongside, and throw little rocks with intent to annoy the
wheels, and with any luck, derail it.