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Jan 1, 1970
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I caught the broadcasts several times in the last couple weeks. The
other day, they had John Stewart on, it was a rather funny show. And
it was nice to hear Walter Cronkite visit yesterday. A couple other
shows were pretty entertaining, too, though I didn't pick up the names
of the hosts.

I wasn't expecting much, along the lines of Hannity, Limbaugh, etc.
But it was a nice contrast to those. And more funny. The only
comparable media outlet to AirAmerica I'm aware of is Pacifica radio,
which I find rather humorless and unlistenable.
 
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R. Steve Walz

Jan 1, 1970
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John said:
More accurately, the payment by Air America for airtime bounced,
and that obviously results from incompetency (and/or a lack of
funding.)
 
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John S. Dyson

Jan 1, 1970
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There is ABSOLUTELY no equivocation. Bottom line: Air America
screwed up, and obviously had an incompetently managed and
executed deal. It really
does look like a goofy situation, but that is to be expected
from the Air America intellectually incompetent fools espousing
childish junior high (or grade school) caliber humor..

As appropriate, I haven't backed off anything that I have claimed,
but it does appear that your inability to understand very much fits
in very well with your political (and obviously general) personal
incompetency.

Given the fact that Air America has to pay for their Airtime, they
are little more than pure informercial. Ron Popiel and Al Franken
obviously both sell low end junk: in Al's case, he is selling the
Democrat party :).

If you are leftist, then the higher quality candidate would
be Nader. If you are centrist/non-radical-leftist, then
the only choice (for president) is unfortunately Bush. Too
bad the Dems keep on trying to sell the 'junk products' to us.

There is absolutely NO equivocation, and simply stating accurate
facts. Remember: alot of people like junk products, but I don't
tolerate junk (like the Dems.)

John
 
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R. Steve Walz

Jan 1, 1970
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John said:
There is ABSOLUTELY no equivocation. Bottom line: Air America
screwed up,
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One guy screwed up his station. Grow up.


and obviously had an incompetently managed and
executed deal. It really
does look like a goofy situation, but that is to be expected
from the Air America intellectually incompetent fools espousing
childish junior high (or grade school) caliber humor..
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Your obviously partisan bias.
When GWB is out on his ass, we'll pee on you.

As appropriate, I haven't backed off anything that I have claimed,
but it does appear that your inability to understand very much fits
in very well with your political (and obviously general) personal
incompetency.
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You're trying to be imaginative, and failing.

If you are leftist, then the higher quality candidate would
be Nader.
 
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krw

Jan 1, 1970
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I didn't know one 1000W radio station could cover both the Chicago and
L.A. markets. Neat trick Steve.
 
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Chuck Harris

Jan 1, 1970
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R. Steve Walz said:
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One owner, dummy.


-Steve

You still have it wrong Steve:

Air America, has an infomercial, a "talk show", starring Al Franken.
In order to promote their product (democrat party), Air America *BUYS*
air time on radio stations across the US.

Air America contracted with stations across the US but didn't have
the money to pay for the air time they bought. They bounced checks
to stations in at least the Chicago and LA markets.

The station owners in Chicago and LA got mad when the checks bounced,
and stopped the infomercial in the middle of the broadcast.


Air America (Al Franken) bounces checks, gets kicked off the air.


-Chuck
 
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Richard Crowley

Jan 1, 1970
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"Chuck Harris" wrote ...
Air America contracted with stations across the US

I heard that they had six stations.
but didn't have
the money to pay for the air time they bought. They bounced checks
to stations in at least the Chicago and LA markets.

Losing 1/3 of their "network".
 
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KR Williams

Jan 1, 1970
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You said "ONE STATION", liar (like all leftists).
 
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KR Williams

Jan 1, 1970
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Again you lie. It was not one station, it was two. Real biggies
(1000W) there too.
and obviously had an incompetently managed and

*IF* Mr. Heinz gets in there we'll all be peeing in our pants.
You're a liar. Though everyone can see it, so no harm.
Yeah, right. He'll do enough damage, since Mr. Heinz is being
shown for the pompous ass he is. I can see why you like him so.
Oh my! Now only the great RSW can define terms and he won't share
his definitions. What an ass...
He has more than the liar RSW.
 
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R. Steve Walz

Jan 1, 1970
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Chuck said:
You still have it wrong Steve:

Air America, has an infomercial, a "talk show", starring Al Franken.
In order to promote their product (democrat party), Air America *BUYS*
air time on radio stations across the US.

Air America contracted with stations across the US but didn't have
the money to pay for the air time they bought. They bounced checks
to stations in at least the Chicago and LA markets.

The station owners in Chicago and LA got mad when the checks bounced,
and stopped the infomercial in the middle of the broadcast.

Air America (Al Franken) bounces checks, gets kicked off the air.

-Chuck
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Al Franken bounced nuthin'. Checks bounce. Or so the station owner
claimed, political allegiance uninspected. It's a business dispute,
not a crime, and nothing that hasn't happened to virtually any
business, especially getting started and getting its remote arms
connected properly.

It is the claim that this reflects anything about politics at ALL
that is wholly disingenuous and dishonest.

-Steve
 
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R. Steve Walz

Jan 1, 1970
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KR said:
Again you lie. It was not one station, it was two. Real biggies
(1000W) there too.
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Disingenuous liar. One station owner, two stations, his political
ties both uninspected and suspect!

*IF* Mr. Heinz gets in there we'll all be peeing in our pants.

You're a liar. Though everyone can see it, so no harm.
 
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Steve Sands

Jan 1, 1970
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I caught the broadcasts several times in the last couple weeks. The
other day, they had John Stewart on, it was a rather funny show. And
it was nice to hear Walter Cronkite visit yesterday. A couple other
shows were pretty entertaining, too, though I didn't pick up the names
of the hosts.

I wasn't expecting much, along the lines of Hannity, Limbaugh, etc.
But it was a nice contrast to those. And more funny. The only
comparable media outlet to AirAmerica I'm aware of is Pacifica radio,
which I find rather humorless and unlistenable.

After nearly a couple decades of listening to both extremes on radio
and TV I have come to the conclusion that the left is the real enemy
in the U.S. and abroad. The left has been taken over by neo socialists
and hypersensitive victocrats that would think nothing of tearing down
the entire constitution and the freedoms that allow free enterprise
and private ownership. It's a party that protected a known criminal
governor and wife from Arkansas when faced with felonies and
impeachment yet seek the removal of a president for legally attacking
a country that violated a cease-fire agreement and 17 U.N. mandates.

Although anyone with a pulse can see through the left's obvious and
often silly agendas, the American and foreign press continues to
promote their naive and dangerous concepts without an ounce of
scrutiny.
 
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R. Steve Walz

Jan 1, 1970
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Steve said:
After nearly a couple decades of listening to both extremes on radio
and TV I have come to the conclusion that the left is the real enemy
in the U.S. and abroad.
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Nahhhh, you're just brainwashed by the rich and their minions.

Leftism is what has brought down the divine right of kings, or foils
any minority that wishes to enslave the rest of us so they don't have
to work and can live fabulously while the rest of us suffer, and now
in the near future the Left heads us toward the inevitable final goal
of destroying all economic unfairness, such as the desire of Rich
Rightists benfit without laboring or any other undeserved wealth.

Leftism is Democracy is Freedom is Democratic Communism, it isn't
Leftism that threatens us, because it is Rightism that takes us away
from Freedom and heads us toward an unfree society where you will
have a bomb planted in your chest to make you shut up and work for
the Rich so they can party and ignore us, their "machines"!

Our freedoms are endangered by those who would tell us they are worth
more than we are, deserve more pay than we do, even though they do no
work, and who say, basically, that they deserve to rule us! Rightism
is Monarachy, Oligarchy, Rich, Wealth, Banditry, Theft, Enslavement,
and everything that Democratic government was invented to defeat by
organizing us "rabble" against those few bandit-lords of the nobility!

The Rich are DIRECTLY in the line of inheritance of our feudal masters,
and Capitalism is itself merely a form of cryto-feudalism, wherein the
slaves are allowed to wander around and to THINK that they are "free"
thereby, despite the fact that they aren't ALLOWED to own their own
homes, because the Rich have stolen them all by inherited claim, and
the People are reduced to paying MOST of their measly wage in rental
TRIBUTE to them MONTHLY!

Expanding Democratic Communist Freedom makes the ownership of any but
YOUR OWN home in which YOU live ILLEGAL, and makes production work
the ONLY means by which someone can earn wealth, ENDING ALL forms of
speculation and investment as phony means of purportedly "deserving"
wealth for no obvious reason, and affirms the right AT BIRTH of each
person to the ownership of their fair share of all of our species'
residential property, and their fair share of democratic control of
those productive lands, mines, farms, and factories, by democratic
vote of themselves and their neighbors regionally!

The left has been taken over by neo socialists
and hypersensitive victocrats that would think nothing of tearing down
the entire constitution and the freedoms that allow free enterprise
and private ownership.
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Only those licentious PHONY rights that spell "finders-keepers-stealers"
to the rich and their quest for the OWNERSHIP of the lives of the REST
of us as their SLAVES!! NO MORE speculation, investment, gouging,
rental housing, mortgage, banks, insurance, stock market or gambling,
all of those must be banned on pain of death!!!! ONLY productive labor
paid absolutely EQUALLY per hour, AS "Hours" should be paid for
products, and those products must be priced by the labor hours it takes
to make them collectively, augmenting their price ONLY to pay for
democratically assigned public works and the responsibility to care
for the aged and infirm, requiring everyone healthy to work a minimum
number of hours a week for their basic living on pain of being denied
food, and to work more hours for their produced consumer devices.
Even the handicapped can be assigned suitable limited work for their
living, everyone can produce who now is a parasite making his living
off others, and together our invcreased production personnel will
produce vastly more and cheaper consumer devices.
 
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Bill

Jan 1, 1970
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Steve Sands said:
[email protected] (papercut) wrote in message

After nearly a couple decades of listening to both extremes on radio
and TV I have come to the conclusion that the left is the real enemy
in the U.S. and abroad. The left has been taken over by neo socialists
and hypersensitive victocrats that would think nothing of tearing down
the entire constitution

entire? I really did not know that. I thought they favored free speech, press,
right to a trial, etc. Thanks for clearing that up.
and the freedoms that allow free enterprise
and private ownership. It's a party that protected a known criminal
governor and wife from Arkansas

Wow! To be a known criminal don't you have to be conviced of something? Or in
your view can you be a "known criminal" for just being a democrat. Of course,
being a WIFE of a known criminal if far far worse.
when faced with felonies and
impeachment yet seek the removal of a president for legally attacking
a country that violated a cease-fire agreement and 17 U.N. mandates.

Right on! Bush has not been given fair credit for making sure UN resolutions
are enforced even if they do not want them to be. He is willing to spend
hundreds of billions of US $s and scacrifice hundreds of Americans to insure
that the UN does not become a paper tiger. This was one of his main rationales
for war.
Although anyone with a pulse can see through the left's obvious and
often silly agendas, the American and foreign press continues to
promote their naive and dangerous concepts without an ounce of
scrutiny.

Absolutely true, Fox News, Washington Times, NY Post, MSNBC, they are not
worth an ounce of spit.

Bill
 
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Tim Auton

Jan 1, 1970
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It's a party that protected a known criminal
governor and wife from Arkansas when faced with felonies and
impeachment yet seek the removal of a president for legally attacking
a country that violated a cease-fire agreement and 17 U.N. mandates.

I thought Bush supported Israel...


Tim
 
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KR Williams

Jan 1, 1970
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Again, RSW, You're a LIAR. You continue= to state that it was
*one* station, when it was two. If you *meant* one station
owner, then why didn't you say that, even after being corrected?
I can only conclude that you're a *liar*, since you have no use
for the truth, even after your points have been thoroughly
rebutted. I do understand that lies are okey-dokey for leftists.
....whatever it takes to convince the chronically stupid, even
lies!
 
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KR Williams

Jan 1, 1970
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You're the one caught in the lie, Stevie! It wasn't *one*
station, as you repeatedly claim. It was at least *two*. Since
the truth was pointed out to you and you continue to say *one*,
you *are* a liar. ...no mistakes, a fuckin' *LIE*. We now know
what you're about.

You *LIE*. That is now an established fact.


In your dreams. Keep snoozing. ...and lying. Mr. Heinz loves
his kind.

You're a total ass, Steevie. You're parents undoubtedly have
known this for some decades.
No, Steevie! *YOU* are the one caught in the lie.
 
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John S. Dyson

Jan 1, 1970
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Again, RSW, You're a LIAR. You continue= to state that it was
*one* station, when it was two. If you *meant* one station
owner, then why didn't you say that, even after being corrected?
I can only conclude that you're a *liar*, since you have no use
for the truth, even after your points have been thoroughly
rebutted. I do understand that lies are okey-dokey for leftists.
...whatever it takes to convince the chronically stupid, even
lies!
The reason why I had earlier quit the discussion was that ANY THINKING
PERSON would have seen that RSW has totally impeached himself WRT
any kind of credibility. For those who still believe his nonsense,
there will be no hope for an kind of open minded (and clear thinking)
evaluation. For those who accept the fact that HOWEVER often they
agree or disagree with me (they don't have to politically agree with
every one of my positions), the Air America scheme has been fully
exposed as the infomercial that it really is. Not only that, it APPEARS
that they havent even done a competent job of negotiating their contracts
and/or paid their "dues."

And yes, the reports were on TWO radio stations, and it is a lie to
claim that it was only one because the TWO stations are owned by
a single owner that was apparently screwed by the lefties.

Also, I don't know why people are making such a big deal out of 1kW
MW radio stations!!! For a large metro area (in a noisy city), 10kW is
the minimum that makes any sense for easy reception (especially at
night, when people have time to listen without disrupting their work.)
1kW tends to be too weak, even for moderate
sized cities like Indy, Cinnci or Columbus OH. When looking at LA or
Chicago Metro, a 1kW station is a more than a little on the weak side.

It is too bad that the Air America scam has been trying to take away
minority targeted broadcast time, not even able to clearly and
easily reach the whole metro areas. It seems alot like the Air
America scheme has been poorly planned.

Organized complex thinking hasn't been much of an attribute of the left,
but they are good at organizing based upon simplistic chants that
are so common in the protest marches of the incompetents.

Perhaps they have tried to take advantage of the financial distress that
is so common in minority areas -- and even trying to take away their radio
stations :-(. Oh well, it is MOST STRONGLY a leftist attribute to
believe that the 'ends justifies the means.'

John
 
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