OPERA

[spike]

Anybody else here using Opera as a newsreader?
I dumped Iexplorer because of the hype and am wondering why some poster's
heads light up and some don't.

 

[anomynous]

I never watch those daytime talk shows.
Jim

(Email accepted only upon request.)

Some days it's just not worth chewing through the restraints...

It ain't over till the fat lady sings.

 

[G. Lavik.]

Anybody else here using Opera as a newsreader?
I dumped Iexplorer because of the hype and am wondering why some poster's
heads light up and some don't.

It has flaws, like IE. Use Mozilla Firefox instead.

George.
G. Lavik

Viktige linker:

http://fomi.ytring.dk/
http://www.rights.no/
http://www.radiobergen.org

Boken:
"I Krigens Hus" (Om islam)
kan kjøpes hos:
http://www.hovedland.dk

http://www.dhimmi.no/
http://www.stortinget.no/inns/inns-200304-190.html
http://www.islamfakta.org/
http://www.islaminfo.dk/
http://www.faithfreedom.org/
http://www.ntpi.org/

 

[Spike]

Thanks, I thought Opera was okay.
What newsreader do you use with Firefox?

 

[RH.Campbell]

Mike, I've switched to Mozilla Thunderbird and Firefox for internet access
after a very bad experience. In spite of all the firewalls, anti-virus
software and every other preventative measure, a couple of Trojans got on my
system and my computer became part of a denial of service attack on Revenue
Canada and Canada Post. I got a notice from Abuse at Rogers.com, who also
assisted in the removal process. I finally got rid of them, but not without
crashing Windows and all the hassle inherent in getting things back up...

It's an ugly internet world out there. Do yourself a favour and get a more
secure browser than what Microsoft has to offer. Take the advice from a guy
that got hit....

RHC

 

[Julian]

You know.. you can only blame the browser so much.

People dont set security on their own machines, and that is the major
problem. If people would have thought security was an issue to begin with
noone would have slacked off. Look at our airport security... we (US)
slacked off and look what happened.. is it the airports problem? No its the
bigger picture ..
i prompt for every cookie .. might seem paranoid but its more secure and
less to track me from/with.

 

[J. Sloud]

Anybody else here using Opera as a newsreader?

I'd suggest using a real newsreader program instead of a web browser.
Forte Agent is the most popular, although Gravity and News Rover have
their fans.

 

[RH.Campbell]

You're right Bob. However, I also used ADware and SpyBot, with ALL security
enabled on my computer (Win XP), including ZoneAlarm to watch all outgoing,
but somehow these Trojans still got through. I also had Adware crash my
laptop, because I think one of the pieces of Malware actually attached
itself to a Windows file and when I deleted the malware, I also deleted
"rundl.dll" as well inadvertantly.....system reload from scratch. So after
every program install and every boot up , I use Adware and Spybot to make
sure that nothing has crept on the computer.

I've also gone so far as to have two duplicate computers on the network,
each a clone of the other. So when (not if...) one crashes, I'm still up and
running for business purposes.

I'm sure that other browsers are probably as susceptible, but there should
be some peace at least for awhile using Mozilla. However, if there is one
rule of thumb which should NEVER be ignored, it's back up your date OFF the
computer....

RHC

 

[Spike]

http://www.xdrive.com/

Mike, I've switched to Mozilla Thunderbird and Firefox for internet access
after a very bad experience. In spite of all the firewalls, anti-virus
software and every other preventative measure, a couple of Trojans got on my
system and my computer became part of a denial of service attack on Revenue
Canada and Canada Post. I got a notice from Abuse at Rogers.com, who also
assisted in the removal process. I finally got rid of them, but not without
crashing Windows and all the hassle inherent in getting things back up...

It's an ugly internet world out there. Do yourself a favour and get a more
secure browser than what Microsoft has to offer. Take the advice from a guy
that got hit....

RHC

 

[Spike]

I didn't realize how much data I add, too expensive, I'm going to look at
those usb memory sticks and just keep 'em on me

http://www.xdrive.com/

Mike, I've switched to Mozilla Thunderbird and Firefox for internet access
after a very bad experience. In spite of all the firewalls, anti-virus
software and every other preventative measure, a couple of Trojans got

on

my
system and my computer became part of a denial of service attack on Revenue
Canada and Canada Post. I got a notice from Abuse at Rogers.com, who also
assisted in the removal process. I finally got rid of them, but not without
crashing Windows and all the hassle inherent in getting things back up...

It's an ugly internet world out there. Do yourself a favour and get a more
secure browser than what Microsoft has to offer. Take the advice from a guy
that got hit....

RHC

Thanks, I thought Opera was okay.
What newsreader do you use with Firefox?

 

[Mark Leuck]

Mike, I've switched to Mozilla Thunderbird and Firefox for internet access
after a very bad experience. In spite of all the firewalls, anti-virus
software and every other preventative measure, a couple of Trojans got on my
system and my computer became part of a denial of service attack on Revenue
Canada and Canada Post. I got a notice from Abuse at Rogers.com, who also
assisted in the removal process. I finally got rid of them, but not without
crashing Windows and all the hassle inherent in getting things back up...

It's an ugly internet world out there. Do yourself a favour and get a more
secure browser than what Microsoft has to offer. Take the advice from a guy
that got hit....

RHC

I could be wrong about this Robert but usually trojans like that come from
you as the user clicking on things they don't really know anything about.
That "thing" can range from a "helper" program to something like p2p
software like Kazaa. The program appears inoccent enough but isn't The best
defense for that is Adaware

IE is vulnerable because it is the most commonly used although I'm sure if
Firefox becomes as popular it too will have the same problems in fact I
recall one being found last week, no program is secure and Firefox has its
share of holes that haven't been discovered yet.

I tried both Thunderbird and Firefox last month and while they were nice i
found them lacking in one part or another compared to IE and Outlook.
Firefox didn't work with my Adsubtract popup ad blocker (the plugins
available for it didn't do the job either) and Thunderbird is shitty with
newsgroups (imho)

 

[RH.Campbell]

Yes, I know how Trojans sneak in, but I swear, I didn't click on anything
that I remember that at least didn't look legitimate.

Obviously at least one link wasn't...((

RHC

 

[Frank Olson]

Yes, I know how Trojans sneak in, but I swear, I didn't click on anything
that I remember that at least didn't look legitimate.

Obviously at least one link wasn't...((

You don't have to click on anything to get infected these days... Just visiting
a page could be enough (or using the preview pane in Outlook)...

 

[BC]

Part of why software other than Mickeysoft is safer is because they aren't a
target yet. As other browsers become more popular they will also become
targets and their weak points will be exploited. Switching may be the answer
for now but is isn't a cure-all forever. If you log onto the Internet, there
is some amount of risk and that's as good as it gets.

Bob

Naw, the main reasons for the security issues are ActiveX
and Microsoft giving way too much privileged access to the
Windows kernel to IE. Also Microsoft added so many friggen
problematic "features" to Windows 2000 and especially XP
that lend themselves to exploit. But I would say that the
best thing that Microsoft could do to boost security is
give up on ActiveX and let it die. It's been a security
risk from day one and nothing Microsoft has done to fix
matters over the past 10 years has stuck. It's totally
hopeless.

-BC

 

[Mark Leuck]

Sometimes the program is legitimate but with spyware, for example Real
Player is notorious for it, sometimes its just spyware for advertisements
and sometimes worse