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Jack Bio

Jan 1, 1970
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Hi all,
i need a switch that can handle one pulse of 4Kv for discarge a 0.1 uF 4Kv capacitor.
How can i do this? IGBT Array? Can someone help me without using BIG SCR?
Thanks a lot!
 
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boB

Jan 1, 1970
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Hi all,
i need a switch that can handle one pulse of 4Kv for discarge a 0.1 uF 4Kv capacitor.
How can i do this? IGBT Array? Can someone help me without using BIG SCR?
Thanks a lot!


I was looking for something similar recently. Except this was for 1
KV and a larger capacitance. 200 amps for just a moment. Maybe 0.1
seconds or so.
SCRs and triacs are a possibility except that they are too leaky.

I bet there are switches out there that would take the current a few
times at least and withstand the voltage but the manufacturers will
most likely not warrant them for that usage. That's a guess of course.
It might be interesting to see what you eventually come up with, if
anything.

boB
 
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mike

Jan 1, 1970
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Hi all,
i need a switch that can handle one pulse of 4Kv for discarge a 0.1 uF 4Kv capacitor.
How can i do this? IGBT Array? Can someone help me without using BIG SCR?
Thanks a lot!
What's your definition of discarge?

If you're not in a hurry, it doesn't take a big device.
Peak discharge current might be the critical parameter.

Relay?
If you only need ONE pulse, any device that fails shorted
would work.

If you expect to do something with the discharge energy other
than dissipate it, you're woefully short on specifications.
 
Triggered spark bridge?
Thanks for reply.
I've read some info about it, but the price (400$) is too high for my budget..
There are other options? :)
 
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John S

Jan 1, 1970
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Hi all,
i need a switch that can handle one pulse of 4Kv for discarge a 0.1 uF 4Kv capacitor.
How can i do this? IGBT Array? Can someone help me without using BIG SCR?
Thanks a lot!

Only one pulse in its life?

Discharge into what load?

Wow! So little information, so much time.
 
Il giorno lunedì 16 settembre 2013 18:28:29 UTC, mike ha scritto:
What's your definition of discarge?



If you're not in a hurry, it doesn't take a big device.

Peak discharge current might be the critical parameter.



Relay?

If you only need ONE pulse, any device that fails shorted

would work.



If you expect to do something with the discharge energy other

than dissipate it, you're woefully short on specifications.

Thanks,
you are right..
In this case , discharging the capacitor through a resistance close to 0.
 
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Cydrome Leader

Jan 1, 1970
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Jack Bio said:
Hi all,
i need a switch that can handle one pulse of 4Kv for discarge a 0.1 uF 4Kv capacitor.
How can i do this? IGBT Array? Can someone help me without using BIG SCR?
Thanks a lot!

homemade missile?

large relay with bent apart NC contacts (I've done this), A solenoid and
some contacts?
 
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Artemus

Jan 1, 1970
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Jack Bio said:
Hi all,
i need a switch that can handle one pulse of 4Kv for discarge a 0.1 uF 4Kv capacitor.
How can i do this? IGBT Array? Can someone help me without using BIG SCR?
Thanks a lot!

A well grounded nosey cat should fit those sparse specs.
Art
 
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Tauno Voipio

Jan 1, 1970
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Hi all,
i need a switch that can handle one pulse of 4Kv for discarge a 0.1 uF 4Kv capacitor.
How can i do this? IGBT Array? Can someone help me without using BIG SCR?
Thanks a lot!


If a dropped wrench will not do, it seems to be thyratron / ignitron
territory.

What are you going to blow up?
 
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legg

Jan 1, 1970
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Hi all,
i need a switch that can handle one pulse of 4Kv for discarge a 0.1 uF 4Kv capacitor.
How can i do this? IGBT Array? Can someone help me without using BIG SCR?
Thanks a lot!

I've used HV relays for this, but with controlled discharge current
profiles, to simulate transient surges into (shunting) protection
circuitry.

Long-stroke transmitter and vacuum relays will suite the bill for low
rep rates, but the number of cycles will be finite, and they will
require regular replacement. Long stroke part contacts can be visually
inspected for condition.

I would not be so confident that the surge generated will be defined
by anything that is 'zero'. At high current and high speed, nothing is
zero, regardless of the initial impulse voltage.

RL
 
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tm

Jan 1, 1970
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Jan Panteltje said:
On a sunny day (Mon, 16 Sep 2013 10:57:10 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Jack
Bio


Triggered spark bridge?

How about a small HV rectifier tube? Apply filament voltage to turn it on
and discharge your capacitor.

Some of these have 1.5 volt filaments that don't require much current..
 
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whit3rd

Jan 1, 1970
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I've read some info about it, but the price (400$) is too high for my budget..

So, you obviously weren't using a spark plug and a flash lamp to do the
deed (electronic strobe from a $5 disposable camera and a lawn mower
replacement part doesn't match your $400 price point).
 
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John S

Jan 1, 1970
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You're switching less than a joule of energy, but peak current may be
10's of kA. Although a number of gas tube devices (krytrons, thyratrons,
or similar) could do the job, they're expensive and require triggering
circuitry. They're overkill unless you need to precisely switch
(time-wise). Triggerable spark gap switches and ignitrons are simple but
expensive, and they also require HV triggering circuitry. IGBT's are
available with 4 kV ratings, but these also tend to be expensive.

If your timing needs are not critical, an inexpensive HV relay switch
should do the job. For example, to generate ultrastrong pulsed magnetic
fields, I use a simple solenoid-driven high voltage switch with 2"
diameter brass contacts. It has reliably switched up to 8500 joules at
9.5 kV, with peak currents up to 100 kA for thousands of
maintenance-free operations.

http://www.capturedlightning.com/frames/gallery/newgap5a.jpg
http://www.capturedlightning.com/frames/Newgap2a.jpg

The above switch replaced a triggered spark gap switch that required
disassembly and maintenance after every 50 - 100 shots. A much smaller
home-brew HV relay should do the job for your application, using
repurposed 1/4" - 3/8" diameter power relay contacts. At 4 kV, you only
need to bring the contacts close enough to arc over, thus avoiding
potential problems with contact welding.

Bert


Beautiful! Thank you so much for the images!

John S
 
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