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Discussion in 'Electronic Repair' started by Iain Wilkie, Mar 28, 2007.

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  1. Iain Wilkie

    Iain Wilkie Guest

    HI All,

    I have a faulty relay on a control card (pretty old). The coil of a relay is
    open circuit and the it seems to be with the coil itself (not at the
    pigtails).

    It is a double pole double throw and the coail voltage is 60 Volts coil
    resistance
    about 5K. Part number seems to be something like NSF30.6.160 also has
    markings on the case TGL, 200,3796, RGI.

    Anyone know where I could source something like this or have more info an
    manufacture
    web link etc,

    Thanks in advance

    Iain

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  2. N Cook

    N Cook Guest

    What sort of physical size, contact size/current carrying capacity, terminal
    form ?
     
  3. Iain Wilkie

    Iain Wilkie Guest

    Dimensions are approx 33mm long x 18mm wide x35mm high, and it is a cradle
    type.
    No idea of contact rating but they are fairly small so not a lot.
    Arrangement is
    2 sets of change-over contacts. PCB mounting

    Used in a safety circuit in a gillotine

    Iain

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  4. TGL xxx sounds like east germany manufactured.

    Jorgen
    dj0ud
     
  5. Then you have a safety problem. Can you buy one from the maker of the
    machine? Is this a "push two buttons simultaneously" system?
     
  6. Iain Wilkie

    Iain Wilkie Guest

    Manufacturer will not supply a "part", only a new machine !

    Part of the light-screen safety circuitry



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  7. Iain Wilkie

    Iain Wilkie Guest

    Yup, German machine so probably a German relay


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  8. Post a picture of the relay somewhere and provide a link so we can
    check it out. Might be similar to one we stock for are arcade games and
    jukeboxes...

    John :-#)#
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  9. Ross Herbert

    Ross Herbert Guest


    This German site might be able to help
    http://www.tec-gmbh.de/aramai.php?keyword=nsf30.1-160&cesit=1&sort=stokid
     
  10. Ross Herbert

    Ross Herbert Guest

    IT seems that the original manufacturer may have been VEB Funkwerk
    Koepenick (RFT) in the former DDR.
    http://www.qsl.net/dl7utg/fwk.htm

    It is possibly now part of
    http://www.robotrontechnik.de/index.htm?/html/standorte/meb.htm

    (see Chronik para where it mentions Funkwerk Koepenick - I assume it
    means a former company which was subsumed)

    Using the search facility to look for "relais" turns up EAW
    RelaisTechnik http://www.eaw-relaistechnik.de/english.htm and they do
    make a miniature industrial cradle relay type TRP3XX. I doubt you will
    find the original type number you require but you might make an
    enquiry.

    Failing that you may be able to use an alternative from any one of a
    number of manufacturers such as Fuji, Omron, Panasonic (NAIS) etc.

    A picture would be a great help.....
     
  11. Iain Wilkie

    Iain Wilkie Guest

    Thanks for all the info...

    I am trying the leads you have provided me with, if still getting nowhere I
    will
    post a photo.

    Thanks again

    iain

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  12. Iain Wilkie

    Iain Wilkie Guest

    Thanks to all.....

    Have made contact with a supplier in Germany

    Iain

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  13. Guest

    Lot easier to buy a 24v relay locally and add a series resistor.
    Safety related legislation can be an issue though.


    NT
     
  14. Guest

    I have 50 x relay with the discription RGI TGL 200 3796, I don't know
    the coil voltage ? I testing with 24 Vac and that is working !

    Greetings,

    John van de Ven
    The Netherlands
     
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