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Michael A. Terrell

Jan 1, 1970
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Michael A. Terrell said:
My might as well. Your 'english' doesn't make much sense.


See what happens when you've got a family member in the hospital for
major surgery? :( At least the surgery is over, and they have been
moved to the ICU.

It was supposed to read: You might as well. Your 'english' doesn't
make much sense.



--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
 
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James Arthur

Jan 1, 1970
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On Feb 27, 9:35 am, "Frithiof Andreas Jensen" wrote:
[...]
You can thank the biofuel craze for that. Planting for burning drives
up food from supply *and* demand sides, plus all the downstream
products--and in other countries--too.
Unintended consequences:
1. Al Gore sounds alarm
2. biofuel craze
3. farmers grow feedstock for cars instead of people
Results:
4. Human misery increased
a. inflation, locally
b. food becomes unaffordable in Mexico and Haiti
c. people starve
5. Environment not improved
a. replacement food grown, appallingly inefficiently
b. net CO2 emissions increase
Best wishes,
James Arthur

So they gave the Nobel Peace Prize to a mass murderer.

John

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22902512/

Intentions are fine, but one has to consider one's actions carefully.
"Activists" sometimes fall a little short in this department.

Cheers,
James Arthur
 
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Paul Hovnanian P.E.

Jan 1, 1970
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Jim said:
http://www.marketwatch.com/news/sto...68525-BA56-4E7E-BD1E-60296DB9E9A2}&siteid=rss

Feb. 26, 2008

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As the broader market began to regain lost ground, crude prices for
April delivery gained 2.3% to a new high of $101.11 a barrel on the
New York Mercantile Exchange, surpassing crude's last record of
$100.65 hit last week.

Or, the dollar drops to $101.11 per barrel. That's about 66.96 EU/
barrel. There's a good change that if you offered to settle in Euros,
most oil producers would quote you a better rate than that.
 
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Jim Thompson

Jan 1, 1970
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Michael A. Terrell said:
--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida



What's your problem retard boy? The whole country replied to my posts,
Jealous? lonely? Maybe you should return to Iraq and be killed. BTW - You
have not served your country, you basically served the daemon.


...Jim Thompson
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| E-mail Address at Website Fax:(480)460-2142 | Rat Bastard |
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America: Land of the Freedom Abusers, Because of the Rat Bastards.
 
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Jim Thompson

Jan 1, 1970
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David L. Jones said:
So why didn't the petrol price go up 700% since oil was $15 back in
1999?
As you say, the reasons are many, but one thing is for sure, petrol
prices have had very little in the way of linear correlation with oil
price.

Dave.



Hey Dave you are already right there, depending on how you look at it.

($15/b * 700%)/100 = $105/b

PS. Every one of you are being affected except me and the one I have chosen
to help.


...Jim Thompson


--
| James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens |
| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et
|
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASICK's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona Voice:(480)460-2350 |
|
| E-mail Address at Website Fax:(480)460-2142 | Rat Bastard |
| http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |

America: Land of the Freedom Abusers, Because of the Rat Bastards.
 
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Jim Thompson

Jan 1, 1970
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Michael A. Terrell said:
My might as well. Your 'english' doesn't make much sense.


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida



Why are your replying to my thread then dummy? Can't help it Hugh?


...Jim Thompson
--
| James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens |
| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et
|
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASICK's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona Voice:(480)460-2350 |
|
| E-mail Address at Website Fax:(480)460-2142 | Rat Bastard |
| http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |

America: Land of the Freedom Abusers, Because of the Rat Bastards.
 
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Jim Thompson

Jan 1, 1970
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Paul Hovnanian P.E. said:
Or, the dollar drops to $101.11 per barrel. That's about 66.96 EU/
barrel. There's a good change that if you offered to settle in Euros,
most oil producers would quote you a better rate than that.



That's the right way to look at the transition. In 2003 the EURO makers
said they will beat US because they hated Bush's arrogant act on Iraq, they
pushed to Arabic countries to use EURO as their standard currency. US
over-spent in every corner, that adds up to the mountain of fire.


...Jim Thompson
--
| James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens |
| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et
|
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASICK's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona Voice:(480)460-2350 |
|
| E-mail Address at Website Fax:(480)460-2142 | Rat Bastard |
| http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |

America: Land of the Freedom Abusers, Because of the Rat Bastards believe
in the daemon.
 
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JosephKK

Jan 1, 1970
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Don said:
In <eaf758ca-95b5-45d3-8456-7db843f12e33@e25g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,
James Arthur wrote:



I don't see 5b being true. The food plants is are replaced from carbon
already in the environment. If this achieves any reduction in consumption
in fossil fuels, then it achieves a decrease in transfer of carbon from
the lithosphere to the atmosphere, biosphere and hydrosphere.

- Don Klipstein ([email protected])

Check out whether leaving the non-product parts of the plants just lying
there versus plowing it under has the best carbon sequestration result.
 
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MooseFET

Jan 1, 1970
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I don't see any logic either. If the Iraq is colonized, then why the oil
is $101.11 ?

Perhaps because:
(1)
It was colonized by and army controlled by those who profit from high
oil prices.

(2)
Those who colonized it screwed up badly.

(3)
High oil prices were ordained by God and thus nothing can prevent
them.

(4)
China and India etc sudden;t discovered what a nice thing cars are.
 
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John Larkin

Jan 1, 1970
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On Feb 27, 9:35 am, "Frithiof Andreas Jensen" wrote:
[...]
What people *should* be watching is the price of Wheat, Soy Beans e.t.c.
because that is where trouble will come from. In the middle east, India and
Pakistan people are going from being middle class to having to choose
between heating and eating! China has enacted price controls - *ensuring* a
shortage (maybe they will shoot some farmers to get the point across that it
is well to produce at a loss)
You can thank the biofuel craze for that. Planting for burning drives
up food from supply *and* demand sides, plus all the downstream
products--and in other countries--too.
Unintended consequences:
1. Al Gore sounds alarm
2. biofuel craze
3. farmers grow feedstock for cars instead of people
Results:
4. Human misery increased
a. inflation, locally
b. food becomes unaffordable in Mexico and Haiti
c. people starve
5. Environment not improved
a. replacement food grown, appallingly inefficiently
b. net CO2 emissions increase
Best wishes,
James Arthur

So they gave the Nobel Peace Prize to a mass murderer.

John

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22902512/

Intentions are fine, but one has to consider one's actions carefully.
"Activists" sometimes fall a little short in this department.

Cheers,
James Arthur


"At the market in the La Saline slum, two cups of rice now sell for 60
cents, up 10 cents from December and 50 percent from a year ago."

That's tragic. At the upscale Safeway down the street, I can get
premium-quality jasmine rice for about 40 cents a pound.

John
 
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Vladimir Vassilevsky

Jan 1, 1970
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MooseFET said:
On Feb 27, 8:28 pm, Vladimir Vassilevsky <[email protected]>
wrote:



Perhaps because:
(1)
It was colonized by and army controlled by those who profit from high
oil prices.
(2)
Those who colonized it screwed up badly.

I think the problem is fundamental: the $101.11 is what happens if you
try to do the things by brute force. This turns out to be very
inefficient due to many reasons, including what you mentioned.
It would be nice if the natives pump the oil by themselves, voluntarily
and happily; that's what that propaganda about the democratic Iraq is
for. It could be possible to set up the new Saddam, however the tough
guy can run out of control and you will have to start all over again.
A deadlock situation.
(3)
High oil prices were ordained by God and thus nothing can prevent
them.

(4)
China and India etc sudden;t discovered what a nice thing cars are.

China and India dicovered that they are the people also. So they are
going to set their rules.


VLV
 
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John Larkin

Jan 1, 1970
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I don't see any logic either. If the Iraq is colonized, then why the oil
is $101.11 ?


What's your definition of "colonizied"? It sure must be different from
mine.

Should learn hispanic?

Should learn *some* language that makes sense.

Is "hiapanic" a language?

John
 
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Simon S Aysdie

Jan 1, 1970
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On Feb 27, 9:35 am, "Frithiof Andreas Jensen" wrote:
[...]




What people *should* be watching is the price of Wheat, Soy Beans e.t..c.
because that is where trouble will come from. In the middle east, India and
Pakistan people are going from being middle class to having to choose
between heating and eating! China has enacted price controls - *ensuring* a
shortage (maybe they will shoot some farmers to get the point across that it
is well to produce at a loss)
You can thank the biofuel craze for that.  Planting for burning drives
up food from supply *and* demand sides, plus all the downstream
products--and in other countries--too.
Unintended consequences:
1. Al Gore sounds alarm
2. biofuel craze
3. farmers grow feedstock for cars instead of people
Results:
4. Human misery increased
  a. inflation, locally
  b. food becomes unaffordable in Mexico and Haiti
  c. people starve
5. Environment not improved
  a. replacement food grown, appallingly inefficiently
  b. net CO2 emissions increase
Best wishes,
James Arthur
So they gave the Nobel Peace Prize to a mass murderer.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22902512/

Intentions are fine, but one has to consider one's actions carefully.
"Activists" sometimes fall a little short in this department.

I don't know who actually said it, and that means we give it to Ben
Franklin:

"The road to hell is paved with good intentions." -- BF


"Of all tyrannies a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its
victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under
robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber
baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be
satiated; but those who torment us for own good will torment us
without end, for they do so with the approval of their own
conscience." - C.S. Lewis, God in the Dock
 
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Frithiof Andreas Jensen

Jan 1, 1970
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So they gave the Nobel Peace Prize to a mass murderer.

John

The Peace Price lost all credibility when they gave it to Yassir Arafat!
 
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Nico Coesel

Jan 1, 1970
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Jim Thompson said:
http://www.marketwatch.com/news/sto...68525-BA56-4E7E-BD1E-60296DB9E9A2}&siteid=rss

Feb. 26, 2008

..................................................................................................

As the broader market began to regain lost ground, crude prices for
April delivery gained 2.3% to a new high of $101.11 a barrel on the
New York Mercantile Exchange, surpassing crude's last record of
$100.65 hit last week.

Some people think the imminent downfall of the US economy is going be
a much bigger problem. The mortgage crisis is just the beginning. I
sure hope the next president has more sense. China and other countries
have huge amounts of dollars. If the dollar is sinking deeper, they
will eventually cut their loss and dump their dollars at any price.

There is also good over here in euro-country the low dollar
compensates the high oil prices a bit.
 
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Bill Bowden

Jan 1, 1970
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There was a paper out recently on that.

The problem not previously considered is that any food not grown here
has to be replaced.  That means it has to be grown somewhere else,
generally under more primitive conditions (e.g. slash & burn (shudder)
or just otherwise less efficiently).

Since the planting-for-biofuel barely yields more than it consumes in
tractor fuel, etc., to start with, any overall loss in efficiency
results in net increased emissions.  So say the paper's authors,
anyhow.

Cheers,
James Arthur- Hide quoted text -

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What about using kelp (seaweed) for bio-fuel? The ocean is cheap real
estate and you don't have irrigation problems, mostly just transport
problems. All you have to do is harvest the kelp and turn it into
methane gas.

-Bill
 
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Don Klipstein

Jan 1, 1970
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There was a paper out recently on that.

The problem not previously considered is that any food not grown here
has to be replaced. That means it has to be grown somewhere else,
generally under more primitive conditions (e.g. slash & burn (shudder)
or just otherwise less efficiently).

Since the planting-for-biofuel barely yields more than it consumes in
tractor fuel, etc., to start with, any overall loss in efficiency
results in net increased emissions. So say the paper's authors,
anyhow.

The way I hear it, a Cornell study made calculations assuming all
ethanol comes from corn grown on fields requiring irrigation, which is
only 15% of all American corn.

It appears to me that the valid points against biofuels are mainly on
bidding food prices higher.

- Don Klipstein ([email protected])
 
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James Arthur

Jan 1, 1970
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[...]
Intentions are fine, but one has to consider one's actions carefully.
"Activists" sometimes fall a little short in this department.

I don't know who actually said it, and that means we give it to Ben
Franklin:

"The road to hell is paved with good intentions." -- BF

No. The road to hell is paved with ... your tax dollars.

Cheers,
James Arthur
 
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James Arthur

Jan 1, 1970
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[...]
The problem not previously considered is that any food not grown here
has to be replaced. That means it has to be grown somewhere else,
generally under more primitive conditions (e.g. slash & burn (shudder)
or just otherwise less efficiently).
Since the planting-for-biofuel barely yields more than it consumes in
tractor fuel, etc., to start with, any overall loss in efficiency
results in net increased emissions. So say the paper's authors,
anyhow.
Cheers,
James Arthur

What about using kelp (seaweed) for bio-fuel? The ocean is cheap real
estate and you don't have irrigation problems, mostly just transport
problems. All you have to do is harvest the kelp and turn it into
methane gas.

-Bill

Hi Bill !
1. Trashes marine habitat
2. Seaweed *is* food. Good, too.
3. Can't speak to the energy content or growth rate, but it's
underwater, gets a lot less sun, so I'd not expect these to be
attractive.
4. Is it easily fermented to methane? Most things aren't.

Hey, here's an idea--why not just get *smaller* cars, and drive them
*less!* That works with zero technical risk, current technology,
saves money and saves the planet. ;-)

Cheers,
James
 
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James Arthur

Jan 1, 1970
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Some people think the imminent downfall of the US economy is going be
a much bigger problem. The mortgage crisis is just the beginning. I
sure hope the next president has more sense. China and other countries
have huge amounts of dollars.

Rumors of our demise have been greatly exaggerated. (with apologies
to Mark Twain)
If the dollar is sinking deeper, they
will eventually cut their loss and dump their dollars at any price.

Not likely. Old saying: "If you owe the bank $100k and can't pay,
you've got a problem. If you owe the bank $100M and can't pay, the
_bank_ has a problem."

Cheers,
James Arthur
 
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