Novice needs help with crazy project

[James Sweet]

My point, though, was that if the OP copies the patent for practical
use he'll be infringing the patent unless he gets permission to copy
it from the owner of the patent.

Unless the person is selling this thing who cares? I was under the
impression someone could build something for personal use regardless of
patents.


I certainly wouldn't let a patent stop my own innovation.

 

[mojo]

Just to let you guys know .. the reason people top post is because
YOU guys are tooooo lazy to cut the length of quoted text down to under
a page .. you bitch about following policy ... then choose WHICH policy
you decide to follow ...

QUIT POSTING THE WHOLE ORIGINAL MESSAGE !!!!!!!!!!!

or ...

put up with top posting ...

some people dont want to have to scroll every msg down to the second page
to read the response .. !!

 

[John Fields]

Unless the person is selling this thing who cares? I was under the
impression someone could build something for personal use regardless of
patents.

 

[John Fields]

Just to let you guys know .. the reason people top post is because
YOU guys are tooooo lazy to cut the length of quoted text down to under
a page .. you bitch about following policy ... then choose WHICH policy
you decide to follow ...

QUIT POSTING THE WHOLE ORIGINAL MESSAGE !!!!!!!!!!!

or ...

put up with top posting ...

some people dont want to have to scroll every msg down to the second page
to read the response .. !!

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LOL, you make up rules for us to follow and then you don't even
follow them yourself? That is, you didn't even trim the stuff
below, which has nothing to do with your post.

**** you and the horse you rode in on, hypocrite.
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[Jamie]

Which reminds me, a few years ago i remember a case where a company
create a product that some one else had a patent on. The product was for
a very small and specific market. The person that held the patent for
this, heard about it after 2 years of it being used then the legal
battle started.
In the end. the patent holder didn't get anything other than a large
bill from his lawyer.
It appears that this person had patents on a lot of different things
with no actual material(devices, paper work, documentation ect) etc..
In other words, they simply created patents on idea's only.
It was there for decided in court that the patent was invalid,
and soon after, the company got a patent for them self's on this product.

I remember a few years ago when i was in a small business of my own,
I was told to package a sample of the product we had and mail it to my
self but never open it. Do this once a year. and also get a legal patent
on record. Because cases like this happen all the time.

 

[Homer J Simpson]

I remember a few years ago when i was in a small business of my own, I
was told to package a sample of the product we had and mail it to my self
but never open it. Do this once a year. and also get a legal patent
on record. Because cases like this happen all the time.

Bad advice. Write it up, get someone with understanding to read it and date
and sign the report.



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[feebo]

There was no threat, you retarded ****. Note the contingency that
the world be under "Old West Rules", dipshit. You are lucky we
aren't. That isn't a threat, that is a fact. Perhaps one day you will
know the difference, but I seriously doubt it.

oh dear!

you just don't learn do you?

having got publicly slaughtered in the little trot about PINs and card
security in general (oh yes you fucking were), you are up to your
tricks again... spouting about things you have no knowledge of, making
threats then denying them, ripping into people when they don't agree
with you.

hey... I am still waiting for you to do your hocus-pocus thingy on my
heart - oh wait! you can't - COZ IT'S ALL CRAP!

here... I had an idea... take a look at this link....

http://www.luddite.me.uk/bc/1.jpg

this is a scan of my birth certificate - I have blurred out all the
interesting stuff... you will also notice that I am certified male -
your certificate (if you had one - what with you being a little
bastard and all) would say "androgynon" - greek for "man-girl" i.e.
you are a weener with no balls... fits.

You reckon it would be a bad thing for a psycho - err, psychic to
stop my heart so you won't do it out of loyalty to some higher
power... well this is fairly benign and you won't get into trouble
with any sky-fairies...

here is my challenge to you - once again,
MY FAITH AGAINST YOURS-
I have faith you will fail.

remote view my birth certificate and give me two of the missing
details... just two... there's a reason I ask for two - lets see how
smart you are eh? If RV is all it is supposed to be, then you should
be able to give all the details... but like all other RVs you won't -
BECAUSE IT DOESN'T WORK! Oh, and your reference to some film I should
see that deal with RV... IT'S ONLY PEOPLE PRETENDING! IT'S NOT REAL -
are you one of these idiots that cheers ina movie when superman fixes
the bad guy... bet you are... whooping and punching the air - remember
the 80%? That's you that is.

you won't be able to resolve the data from the image - gaussian blur
leaves no residual that can be rebuilt.

I await your failure with baited breath.

A non-correct reply or abscence of a reply within one week is an
admission by you of complete failure - you must be used to this by
now.

PS... you suck gay cock.

 

[feebo]

some people dont want to have to scroll every msg down to the second page
to read the response .. !!

good point well made.

I think TP is a better format but not wishing to annoy, I bend to
others preference.

 

[John Fields]

Bad advice. Write it up, get someone with understanding to read it and date
and sign the report.

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Bad advice on top of bad advice, dumbfuck.

Read this:

http://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/pac/disdo.html

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

My personal patent attorney, over lunch, during a discussion of
cable-buster boxes. Many years ago, prior to the institution of
theft-of-service laws.

If you were correct, why would theft-of-service laws be necessary?

To prosecute people who tamper with the CATV physical plant, which
was happening LONG before there was any scrambling equipment. I've seen
photos were some dumbass hacksawed the shield off the .750" CATV
trunkline. Then he connected it directly to his TV set. The high RF
levels blew out the RF amp, and the 30 VAC 30 A power supply set the
input circuit on fire. Most of the system went down when he opened the
shield, so it wasn't very long before the damage was found. Then, the
stupid SOB tried to sue the CATV company for the damage to his TV, and
not having warning labels that the lines were carrying AC power.

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Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

Just to let you guys know .. the reason people top post is because
YOU guys are tooooo lazy to cut the length of quoted text down to under
a page .. you bitch about following policy ... then choose WHICH policy
you decide to follow ...

QUIT POSTING THE WHOLE ORIGINAL MESSAGE !!!!!!!!!!!

or ...

Plonk!


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Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

 

[Marko Ramius]

What about a small periscope?

R

and a small submarine to go with it.

 

[Jim Thompson]

To prosecute people who tamper with the CATV physical plant, which
was happening LONG before there was any scrambling equipment. I've seen
photos were some dumbass hacksawed the shield off the .750" CATV
trunkline. Then he connected it directly to his TV set. The high RF
levels blew out the RF amp, and the 30 VAC 30 A power supply set the
input circuit on fire. Most of the system went down when he opened the
shield, so it wasn't very long before the damage was found. Then, the
stupid SOB tried to sue the CATV company for the damage to his TV, and
not having warning labels that the lines were carrying AC power.

I did that to a neighbor's TV once... lit it off with a KW pumped into
a 50' long V-beam on 2-meters ;-)

...Jim Thompson

 

[ehsjr]

Just to let you guys know .. the reason people top post is because
YOU guys are tooooo lazy to cut the length of quoted text down to under
a page .. you bitch about following policy ... then choose WHICH policy
you decide to follow ...

QUIT POSTING THE WHOLE ORIGINAL MESSAGE !!!!!!!!!!!

or ...

put up with top posting ...

some people dont want to have to scroll every msg down to the second page
to read the response .. !!

Thanks - but somehow your post must've gotten
messed up. The helpful part seems to be missing.

Ed

 

[Jack]

So is it written in stone somewhere that contributors to this group have to
post in some certain way??

 

[Robert Baer]

I think you should check your facts.

Sorry; it is you that needs to do the checking.

 

[mojo]

So is it written in stone somewhere that contributors to this group have
to post in some certain way??

you would think soooo .. the way these guys freak out when you top post.

btw .. John Fields, I didnt trim any of the message on purpose
just to show you how absurd it looks ... asshole...

 

[MassiveProng]

And here we may need to disagree, though I'm not interested in
debating it at length.

Most thieves aren't.

 

[Michael Brown]

(dropping alt.electronics as my news server can't find it)

krw wrote:
[snip]

A one-off for personal use is allowed.

No, it is not.

Yeth it is ;-)

cite?

My personal patent attorney, over lunch, during a discussion of
cable-buster boxes. Many years ago, prior to the institution of
theft-of-service laws.

The "many years ago" could be the problem ... things have changed in the
last few years. Although I hate to use Wikipedia to support a point, the
"Research exemption" page does have some good references to read about:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Research_exemption
The relevant title can be grabbed from
http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode35/usc_sec_35_00000271----000-.html
which makes it very clear that the construction of a patented device
infringes the patent: "Except as otherwise provided in this title, whoever
without authority makes, uses, offers to sell, or sells any patented
invention, within the United States, or imports into the United States any
patented invention during the term of the patent therefor, infringes the
patent". There are no explicit exemptions in the title itself for research
except for specific pharmaceutical-related situations. The more general
research exemption (in the US) is originally from the Whittemore v. Cutter
case, but this has been significantly narrowed over the years, especially in
the last 5 or so.

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[MassiveProng]

What about a small periscope?

R

Place the mirror from a simple pair of bicyclist's glasses on his
swimming goggles. Done!