Noiseless mode for hardware.

[Skybuck Flying]

Hello,

We all want fast computers, fast games, fast software etc.

But sometimes we might want quite computers as well, when working with less
intensive software.

So I propose hardware is extended with a noiseless mode.

When the user puts the computer via the software into "noiseless" mode the
computer should use minimal resources to become "noiseless".

For example a 5.0 GHZ processor could turn into 1 GHZ processor maybe even
500 GHZ or maybe even slower than that.

Harddisks become slower, everything should become slower, and therefore
hopefully more power efficient.

The hardware could even use alternative circuitry printed on a different
nano scale to consume less power in "noiseless" mode.

The goal is to bring the PC, back into the 80486 age when cpu's didn't
require heatsinks and fans, and the same goes for motherboards, harddisks,
memory chips, and graphics cards.

So that fans can be disabled.

To get a totally quite pc !?

Bye,
Skybuck.

 

[HapticZ]

noise means energy is being wasted.

laptops optimise energy usage etensively to compensate for general poor
battery life ( i expect a battery to last 24 hours at least!, doesn't
everyone ??)

cpu's do cycle slower, often they just shut down into a "sleep" mode when
idle, even for times as short as a few microseconds often as long as
20seconds

2.5 inch hard drives are virtually noiseless also anyway,.try putting those
into desktops !

power supplys require fans to compensate for poor design anyway., they can
be made better if the market demands it

desktop/rack mother boards are only marginally designed for power savings
since they expect to be connected directly to the "GRID" or someother giga
amp power resource

green desktops are becoming more available due to power costs

virtual use of internet high speed allows use of simply a monitor and
keyboard or mouse, no drives, no fans,nothing other than a link to a server
that supplies the user with all resources neeeded.

 

[[email protected]]

Hello,

We all want fast computers, fast games, fast software etc.

But sometimes we might want quite computers as well, when working with less
intensive software.

So I propose hardware is extended with a noiseless mode.

When the user puts the computer via the software into "noiseless" mode the
computer should use minimal resources to become "noiseless".

For example a 5.0 GHZ processor could turn into 1 GHZ processor maybe even
500 GHZ or maybe even slower than that.

Harddisks become slower, everything should become slower, and therefore
hopefully more power efficient.

The hardware could even use alternative circuitry printed on a different
nano scale to consume less power in "noiseless" mode.

The goal is to bring the PC, back into the 80486 age when cpu's didn't
require heatsinks and fans, and the same goes for motherboards, harddisks,
memory chips, and graphics cards.

So that fans can be disabled.

To get a totally quite pc !?

Bye,
Skybuck.

You mean like every notebook, sub-notebook, laptop and palmtop
computer out there?
Merry Christmas whoever you are!

 

[Robert Baer]

Hello,

We all want fast computers, fast games, fast software etc.

* Including fast women...

But sometimes we might want quite computers as well, when working with less
intensive software.

** Not going to get quiet women...

So I propose hardware is extended with a noiseless mode.

** Voicebox modification with remote control??

When the user puts the computer via the software into "noiseless" mode the
computer should use minimal resources to become "noiseless".

For example a 5.0 GHZ processor could turn into 1 GHZ processor maybe even
500 GHZ or maybe even slower than that.

Harddisks become slower, everything should become slower, and therefore
hopefully more power efficient.

** Hard drives *WILL NOT* run slower or faster; they do not depend on
the CPU clock rate, dummy.

The hardware could even use alternative circuitry printed on a different
nano scale to consume less power in "noiseless" mode.

** Not needed; stupid.

The goal is to bring the PC, back into the 80486 age when cpu's didn't
require heatsinks and fans, and the same goes for motherboards, harddisks,
memory chips, and graphics cards.

** Hard drives then were much less efficent on power drain than now;
they weer power hogs compared to what is now available.

So that fans can be disabled.

To get a totally quite pc !?

Bye,
Skybuck.

*** BTW, the word is spelled "QUIET".
But then again, what do you know?

 

[Robert Baer]

noise means energy is being wasted.

** Check.

laptops optimise energy usage etensively to compensate for general poor
battery life ( i expect a battery to last 24 hours at least!, doesn't
everyone ??)

cpu's do cycle slower, often they just shut down into a "sleep" mode when
idle, even for times as short as a few microseconds often as long as
20seconds

** Check.

2.5 inch hard drives are virtually noiseless also anyway,.try putting those
into desktops !

** Done that; a simple adaptor takes care of the connector size
diference as well as the power.

 

[housetrained]

Hello,

We all want fast computers, fast games, fast software etc.

But sometimes we might want quite computers as well, when working with
less intensive software.

So I propose hardware is extended with a noiseless mode.

To get a totally quite pc !?

Bye,
Skybuck.

Try http://www.quietpc.com/ Not cheap but effective. I have fan control at
front and usually have all (4) fans on minimum. My graphics cards (2 SLI'd)
are 8500GT's Silent (no fans but big heatsink) It can be done!!!

 

[Dave]

Try http://www.quietpc.com/ Not cheap but effective. I have fan control at
front and usually have all (4) fans on minimum. My graphics cards (2
SLI'd) are 8500GT's Silent (no fans but big heatsink) It can be done!!!

You can get almost silent without sacrificing performance or spending a ton
of money. Just look for -passively- cooled video cards and motherboards (no
fans, larger heatsinks). This won't cost one cent extra, but will require a
little research to find the "right" components that match whatever system
you want to build (compatibility with other components, etc.) Buy a
Seasonic brand power supply (most are practically silent). You should be
buying a high-quality name brand power supply anyway, so (unless you are too
cheap to build a system the CORRECT way) a Seasonic power supply won't add
any extra cost to your system.

Unless you resort to water-cooling (and even then), you will still
need -some- additional airflow through the case, and fans can add noise.
The exhaust fan(s) of the power supply won't be enough cooling, you'll need
at least one fan pulling cool air into the lower part of your case. Choose
a nearly silent fan for this, keeping in mind that 2 or 3 QUIET fans will
generate less noise than one noisy fan can. In other words, if you find a
case fan that is quiet enough, but doesn't push enough air, just get another
one or two of them. Change case to accomodate, if necessary. -Dave

 

[sandy58]

Hello,

We all want fast computers, fast games, fast software etc.

But sometimes we might want quite computers as well, when working with less
intensive software.

So I propose hardware is extended with a noiseless mode.

When the user puts the computer via the software into "noiseless" mode the
computer should use minimal resources to become "noiseless".

For example a 5.0 GHZ processor could turn into 1 GHZ processor maybe even
500 GHZ or maybe even slower than that.

Harddisks become slower, everything should become slower, and therefore
hopefully more power efficient.

The hardware could even use alternative circuitry printed on a different
nano scale to consume less power in "noiseless" mode.

The goal is to bring the PC, back into the 80486 age when cpu's didn't
require heatsinks and fans, and the same goes for motherboards, harddisks,
memory chips, and graphics cards.

So that fans can be disabled.

To get a totally quite pc !?

Bye,
Skybuck.

"power efficient."
"To get a totally quite pc !?" You mean QUIET???? Learn to spell
before you learn GREEN, asshole. Another (NOT-Jolly) Green Giant out
to waste the world. How long did it take you to think THAT loada shit
up??

 

[SteveH]

Hello,

We all want fast computers, fast games, fast software etc.

But sometimes we might want quite computers as well, when working
with less intensive software.

So I propose hardware is extended with a noiseless mode.

When the user puts the computer via the software into "noiseless"
mode the computer should use minimal resources to become "noiseless".

For example a 5.0 GHZ processor could turn into 1 GHZ processor maybe
even 500 GHZ or maybe even slower than that.

Harddisks become slower, everything should become slower, and
therefore hopefully more power efficient.

The hardware could even use alternative circuitry printed on a
different nano scale to consume less power in "noiseless" mode.

The goal is to bring the PC, back into the 80486 age when cpu's didn't
require heatsinks and fans, and the same goes for motherboards,
harddisks, memory chips, and graphics cards.

So that fans can be disabled.

To get a totally quite pc !?

Bye,
Skybuck.

Or even a totally /quiet/ PC.
Got 2 PC's here, both in Antec P180's, with all the case fans running at
2/3rds speed - you can barely hear either of them, and can't hear them at
all when the TV is on. So why would I need to do anything special?

SteveH

 

[Skybuck Flying]

The case is resonating.

It creates a humming sound.

It's the fans that cause the case to slighty resonate and hum.

The humming goes away if I press the case doors against each other or
against the casing or whatever.

But after a while the humming returns !

Bye,
Skybuck.

 

[Timothy Daniels]

The case is resonating.

It creates a humming sound.

It's the fans that cause the case to slighty resonate and hum.

The humming goes away if I press the case doors against each other or against
the casing or whatever.

But after a while the humming returns !

Bye,
Skybuck.

Why are you telling us this?

*TimDaniels*

 

[D from BC]

Why are you telling us this?

*TimDaniels*

I'd rather read a post about where to get funny cartoons printed on
toilet paper.


D from BC

 

[Larry Elmore]

Why are you telling us this?

Because he *thought* the voices in his head were humming in unison in an
effort to resonate and harmonise with each other so as to modulate a
single commanding voice whose will he could not hope to resist. Imagine
his relief when he discovered it was just that his (casing) screws were
slightly loose. ;-)

 

[mc]

The case is resonating.

It creates a humming sound.

It's the fans that cause the case to slighty resonate and hum.

The humming goes away if I press the case doors against each other or
against the casing or whatever.

But after a while the humming returns !

Bye,
Skybuck.

On the wild guess that maybe you want to *stop* the humming (since you
haven't said), get a "quiet kit" for installing a power supply. It consists
of various rubber washers and gaskets.

Also check for the possibility that the humming is from a hard disk rather
than from the power supply.

 

[Robert Baer]

The case is resonating.

It creates a humming sound.

It's the fans that cause the case to slighty resonate and hum.

The humming goes away if I press the case doors against each other or
against the casing or whatever.

But after a while the humming returns !

Bye,
Skybuck.

You are *supposed* to sing back!

 

[Robert Baer]

On the wild guess that maybe you want to *stop* the humming (since you
haven't said), get a "quiet kit" for installing a power supply. It consists
of various rubber washers and gaskets.

Also check for the possibility that the humming is from a hard disk rather
than from the power supply.

Since not only does he *never* backup, but also does not know *how*
to backup, HD relaibility is of no concern (to him).

 

[Skybuck Flying]

I don't want to damage my case by screwing them into to hard, so I don't
screw them in hard.

It probably doesn't matter that much.

The case doors have plenty of room to wiggle I think.

Maybe the harddisk power cord is against the door.

But actually I think it's the harddisk fans attached to the otherside case
door that could start humming/vibrating.

I pushed against the case door where the fans are located and the humming
has stopped all night.

But I bet the humming will be back in a few days or so or maybe even a few
minutes or hours it could start again at any moment and it's starting to
annoy me that I have to stand up and again tighten the case door where the
fans are located.

Maybe I should screw them in a bit harder but I don't wanna do that just in
case lol hehehehehehe.

But maybe I will sometime... don't feel like it now and it probably won't
matter.

So to make a long story short:

The right side of the case has two fans attached, using 5 volts each and
spinning slowly.

The right side of the case is probably not strong enough and steady enough
to prevent any humming.

The right side of the case could start to wiggle and produce a humming sound
!

Case designers should take that into account and design something that:

1. Doesn't vibrate.

or

2. Maybe is very strongely attached to the rest of the case somehow... maybe
by an extra clip or something that locks in place.

or

3. Don't attach any fans to case doors/sides.

Turning harddisk 90 degrees and having side way air flow is a bad and stupid
idea anyway.

Airflow must go in at the front and out at the back.

And harddisks must be in line with the case... or alternatively the case
should be wider to make some room for cables near the harddisk.. but that's
not really the problem.

My conclusion: side fans <- bad idea. The case could start humming.

Also another idea:

Make the bottom of the case/the feet software so they can obsorb:

1. Vibrations.

2. If the table is unsteady the case should steady itself instead of
starting to swing back and forth slightly.

Get what I am saying.

So for example if a table is a millimeter inperfect the case feet should
obsorb this imperfection so it steadies itself on the inperfect table

Or maybe the feet themselfes are inperfect and off by a millimeter or half
or so.

Whatever the case may be I added a book onto the left front of my case to
stablized.

It helps prevent any humming sounds from vibrating against the table using
it as a gitaar thing.

Yes a new challenge has arrived for designers:

Preventing vibrations and humming sounds !

(The humming makes more noise than the fans themselfes, when the humming is
present go figure ! )

Messy text.

Bye,
Skybuck.

 

[Skybuck Flying]

I can't sing so good.

I'll play it a song

LOL.

Bye,
Skybuck.

 

[SteveH]

I don't want to damage my case by screwing them into to hard, so I
don't screw them in hard.

It probably doesn't matter that much.

The case doors have plenty of room to wiggle I think.

Maybe the harddisk power cord is against the door.

But actually I think it's the harddisk fans attached to the otherside
case door that could start humming/vibrating.

I pushed against the case door where the fans are located and the
humming has stopped all night.

But I bet the humming will be back in a few days or so or maybe even
a few minutes or hours it could start again at any moment and it's
starting to annoy me that I have to stand up and again tighten the
case door where the fans are located.

Maybe I should screw them in a bit harder but I don't wanna do that
just in case lol hehehehehehe.

But maybe I will sometime... don't feel like it now and it probably
won't matter.

So to make a long story short:

The right side of the case has two fans attached, using 5 volts each
and spinning slowly.

The right side of the case is probably not strong enough and steady
enough to prevent any humming.

The right side of the case could start to wiggle and produce a
humming sound !

Case designers should take that into account and design something
that:
1. Doesn't vibrate.

or

2. Maybe is very strongely attached to the rest of the case
somehow... maybe by an extra clip or something that locks in place.

or

3. Don't attach any fans to case doors/sides.

Or 4; are designed with complete and utter tossers in mind.

Turning harddisk 90 degrees and having side way air flow is a bad and
stupid idea anyway.

Airflow must go in at the front and out at the back.

And harddisks must be in line with the case... or alternatively the
case should be wider to make some room for cables near the harddisk..
but that's not really the problem.

Rubbish, have you even seen a P180 for example?

My conclusion: side fans <- bad idea. The case could start humming.

Also another idea:

Make the bottom of the case/the feet software so they can obsorb:

1. Vibrations.

Like lots do

2. If the table is unsteady the case should steady itself instead of
starting to swing back and forth slightly.

Get what I am saying.

Yep you're a fucking idiot.

 

[rpl]

Why are you telling us this?

wild guess... "computer architecture"


OP, a bit of masking tape applied where the doors fit should drop the
humming down, likewise a couple well placed grommets... of course you
haven't said if you actually like the humming or not.

rpl