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New Panasonic VCR degrade when you copy a DVD??

Discussion in 'Hobby Electronics' started by Allan, Nov 7, 2003.

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  1. Allan

    Allan Guest

    Has any one else heard anything about the newer Panasonic VCR's eg NVHV60
    have been desigined to degrade when attempting to record a from a DVD, even
    with the macrovision has been removed.
    Our Customer says he now gets a grainy picture and the quality is degraded?

    Claims he rang Panasonic and they told him thats what they do now?

    I do not know how the VCR would know its recording a DVD signal or a Off Air

    Any Ideas?

    If its true, I rekon he should return the Unit as it would be Faulty, like
    if he wants to record from his own DVD's that he has recorded he wont be
    able too...
  2. I don't buy it. If it specifically has been designed to regcognise
    copy-protected material, it will completly (or as much as it can) disable the
    picture and/or audio.
    There's no law against lying. I've seen warning messages on video tapes that
    claim it damages your equipment if you attempt to copy it.
    Easy, it doesn't know. Aside from CGMS or Macrovision, there is no other
    copy-protection tell-tale signs the signal has come from a DVD player at all.
    I'd be looking at interference or some such. It might not be his specific
    DVD player that's doing it, rather than any of that make and model. Perhaps
    another DVD player might not do it?

    Without further investigation, it's hard to tell. You haven't specified any
    more details, we don't know if he's trying to link the video with a wet piece
    of string...
  3. Rod Speed

    Rod Speed Guest

    Technically it would fail the fitness for purpose test under the trade practices act.
    He'd certainly be able monster Panasonic on a full
    refund on that basis, tho he may have to escalate
    that to management who will understand the basics
    of the consumer law, even if the front monkeys dont.
  4. Rod Speed

    Rod Speed Guest

    Maybe. Or maybe Panasonic decided to do it that way to
    minimise the number returned by customers as being faulty.

    Plenty of mug punters wouldnt notice the quality degradation
    but even the stupidest would notice no picture or sound.
    There is actually. Misleading and deceptive
    conduct under the trade practices act.
    And that basically flouts the TPA.
    Thats bullshit. There are obvious differences and
    the VCR could be designed to detect those on that.
    Bullshit. There may not be explicitly designed in
    differences but the two signals are measurably different.
    I'd be considering what Panasonic has said is designed in.

    Its unlikely that an operation like Panasonic are deliberately lying on that.
    That wouldnt prove that the VCR isnt designed to do that.
    Yes, but that statement by Panasonic is significant.
    It wouldnt normally produce those specific symptoms even if he was.
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