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  1. Will a TV set bought in Europe work in New Zealand? What parameters
    should I compare to establish if the TV set bought in Europe will work
    in New Zeland?
     
  2. Buy one when u get there......

    "n o s p a m p l e a s e"
     
  3. Genome

    Genome Guest

    "n o s p a m p l e a s e"
    Kiwi fruits work in Europe so there is probably some reciprocal agreement
    that European TV's will work in New Zealand.

    DNA
     
  4. no_one

    no_one Guest

    actually you need to determine if the country is PAL or NTSC format on the
    video.
     
  5. What possible use could a tv set be anymore?

    Use of a PC plugin and a decent display makes infinitely more sense.


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  6. Eeyore

    Eeyore Guest

    No it doesn't.

    Just look at the power consumption for starters.

    Graham
     
  7. Barry Lennox

    Barry Lennox Guest

    No. NZ uses PAL-B with sound-vision spacing of 5.5 MHz, The UK,
    AFAIK, still uses PAL-I with sound-vision spacing of 6.0 MHz. Plus NZ
    still transmits a lot on the "Low-band VHF" channels (44 to 68 MHz)

    Anyway, they are pretty cheap these days. eg: a couple of prices (in
    NZD) from today's junk mail:

    14" $109 to $149.
    21" $199 to $339

    Barry Lennox
     
  8. He said "Europe". How about, say, Germany. Don't they use another
    flavor/flavour of PAL?
    Even the smaller plasma sets are getting pretty cheap.


    Best regards,
    Spehro Pefhany
     
  9. hackinblack

    hackinblack Guest

    why bother? i looked into something similar (going from UK to France)
    its not worth the trouble,or expense to cart a big item any
    distance,cheaper to get one locally
    a few buy in spain to take to france as it works out cheaper
    apparently!
    must be some b***** expensive TV's to be worth the fuel involved.
     
  10. Joerg

    Joerg Guest

    Europe used to be (still is?) all splintered up. In Germany I had to use
    a VCR that can auto-switch between PAL and SECAM, the French system. TV
    sets could not do that except for one but only because I hacked it. The
    OP would have to look up the standards and differences between NZ and
    whatever country he bought his TV in. At least for these issues:
    Channels and spacing, audio carrier(s), color system.
    I've heard that they don't last very long. Wanted to get a cheap laptop
    for the road at a post-Thanksgiving sale. Of course, all the good stuff
    was gone by then. Walked out the store and that was through the TV
    aisle. Looked at a few flat-screen TVs and was rather surprised to see
    very high prices for 2-year warranty extensions. Up to $200 for sets
    that cost around $1000. That is a whopping 20% warranty overhead after
    the typical 1-year period. This got me thinking, usually the quality and
    longevity of a product is inversely proportional to the yearly cost of
    the warranty.
     
  11. Phil Allison

    Phil Allison Guest

    "n o s p a m p l e a s e"

    ** Europe is has many broadcast TV standards in use - it ALL depends on
    which country. Your IP address indicates you are posting from Sweden,
    which does appear to use the same ( analogue) signal standards as NZ.

    However, NZ uses the VHF band from 44 MHz to 238 MHz ( gap from 68 to
    174 ) to provide 12 ( analogue) TV channels while many European TVs have
    tuners that are UHF only.

    See: http://www.videouniversity.com/standard.htm

    NZ presently has no free to air *digital* TV signals, but will likely have
    them in the next year or two. Then the TV set only has to accept a PAL video
    signal from a digital STB in one of the common formats ie, composite,
    S-Video or Component Video.)



    ....... Phil
     
  12. Apparently the life is improving. The technology is getting better
    rapidly enough that one probably shouldn't count on keeping it for 8
    or 10 years though.
    I'm not sure there's any real relationship. The store chains have cut
    margins to the bone on the bare hardware itself, so they're
    practically forced to overcharge on "optional" extras such as extended
    warranties, cables and flat-screen mounting brackets (all of which is
    to me a year or so ago.


    Best regards,
    Spehro Pefhany
     
  13. According to these websites:

    http://www.kropla.com/tv.htm
    http://www.ee.surrey.ac.uk/Contrib/WorldTV/broadcast.html

    Sweden and NZ both have VHF and UHF PAL (B/G). And both are 230V 50Hz
    power.

    But I have no idea how accurate the websites are.


    Best regards,
    Spehro Pefhany
     
  14. Phil Allison

    Phil Allison Guest

    "Spehro Pefhany"
    "Phil Allison"

    ** No guarantee that Swedish TVs have tuners installed covering the low end
    of the VHF band.

    No guarantee the OP is in Sweden, anyhow.

    Totally stupid to take a foreign market TV into NZ without proof the same
    model is ( or was) sold there - or no service info or essential spares
    will be available.





    ........ Phil
     
  15. Barry Lennox

    Barry Lennox Guest

    Good point, I assumed the UK.

    It will be important to get low band coverage as NZ uses Channels 1,2
    and 3 (44-68MHz) a lot.

    It seems a pointless exercise given the low cost of (CRT at least)
    sets here. As a minimum you will need to change the mains plug to the
    Aust/NZ style, or futz about with a "converter"
    Not too cheap. 42" Plasma is about $2700-3500. LCD are less, about
    $600 upwards for 15" and about $2000 for 26"

    Barry
     
  16. I've seen LG brand (Korean chaebol*) 42" Plasma for CDN 1499 (well
    under US 1500 with tax). LCDs are a bit cheaper even in relatively
    large screen sizes, but the picture tends to look pretty washed out
    when viewed much off the axis. I think LCDs look sharper close up.
    * okay, "jaebol". Why did the Koreans have to go and change their
    romanization scheme? It made a Gimpo of the airport (formerly Kimpo).


    Best regards,
    Spehro Pefhany
     
  17. Even the (apparently) same model may have variations to customize it
    to the country where it is sold.


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  18. Joerg

    Joerg Guest

    Hello Phil,

    Lived in Europe until mid-90's. All TV sets had VHF low band and VHF
    high band. In fact, most sets had tuners that went all the way from
    around 35MHz to 860MHz or so. That is because cable networks use "extra
    channels" which causes some grief because of leakage.

    Not always stupid. We took ours because we had tons of tapes with
    cherished old movies and comedies. No way we could rent any of these
    here in the US. Only lasted 10 years or so though, then the first tapes
    began to lose sync :-(

    Oh, and for the first 8 months after the move we had no live TV at all.
    Didn't need it...
     
  19. Barry Lennox

    Barry Lennox Guest

    Here's an interesting article on TV display technologies, and what's
    in the pipeline:

    http://www.spectrum.ieee.org/nov06/4697

    Barry
     
  20. Phil Allison

    Phil Allison Guest

    "Joerk"

    ** Pedantic twaddle.


    ** Irrelevant drivel.




    .......... Phil
     
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