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Mike Sokoly

Jan 1, 1970
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For all you Napco freaks in Metro NYC Area:
Napco and Elcor are donig a presentation at:
Huntington Hilton Hotel, Route 110, Melville
On: Thursday, March 16 at 6-9PM
Featuring: Kenny Kramer (Seinfelds "Real" Kramer)
and Napco Rep Joe Matassa on Napco's
FREEDOM SYSTEM
Call: Stephanie at Ronkonkoma Office 1-877-352-6755 to RSVP
Oh Boy! A Free Seinfeld Book Personalized By Kenny!
( It's probably gonna by worth MORE than the Napco Panel)
 
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Mark Leuck

Jan 1, 1970
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The Freedom panel was previously an ADT product, it arms by locking and
unlocking the deadbolt. A modified GEM-P800
 
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Nick Markowitz

Jan 1, 1970
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Tech support sucks for one .

have been familar with the line since the CC1 series
and found programming difficult attimes had to use an interface piece to get
proper downloads
the ma3000 before the windows verion software came out took up to much
memory always had to play with the computer DOS and memory so i could
change and program zones.
etc etc.
If adequte tech support was there instead of attiude I may have stayed with
the line but chose and stayed with FBII and Ademco all these years and did
some Moose before Sentrol ruined the line and DSC before they started
causing problems couple years out after they were installed.

Been there done that over 25 years
 
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Nick Markowitz

Jan 1, 1970
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My ?? on the freedom what if an intruder gets hold of your keys.
 
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Jim Rojas

Jan 1, 1970
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I have a freedom panel on my desk. Napco is kidding with this right?

I looked at it, and I looked again. And then I gave it one more try. I would
never install this thing in someones home.

Napco should look at what ITI is doing. The ITI Allegro is a step in the
right direction.

Jim Rojas
 
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Mike Sokoly

Jan 1, 1970
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I didn't say I LIKED the "FREEDUM" just passing along info!
It used to be said that if you could keypad program NAPCO you could do
ANY Panel (even an MA3000!)
I agree Jim, I wouldn't put this junk in someones house either (ADT
pre-stuff!) Like I wouldn't sell an alarm system for $99.95 either!
Allegro is good for apartment and condo type installs too! Good for the
college crowd also!
Some posters here are predicting the demise of certain GE sub-companies
though!
Waiting for the TRUTH!
 
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Nick Markowitz

Jan 1, 1970
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My ?? on the freedom what if an intruder gets hold of your keys.
 
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Jim Rojas

Jan 1, 1970
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Most people don't have key in, key out deadbolts. But many have sidelights
or glass within the door. I can see someone smashing the sidelight and
unlocking the deadbolt...SYSTEM DISARMED.

Jim Rojas
 
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Mark Leuck

Jan 1, 1970
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Then you'r screwed but how often does that really happen?
 
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Mark Leuck

Jan 1, 1970
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It's actually an interesting product and it does use a "key" if needed, I've
got one too and I'm not sure yet about it but the idea does have potential
 
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Robert L Bass

Jan 1, 1970
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I didn't say I LIKED the "FREEDUM" just passing along info!
It used to be said that if you could keypad program NAPCO
you could do ANY Panel (even an MA3000!)...

Not to be picky, but the MA3000 *is* a Napco panel. I used to
program Napco by keypad on a regular basis... until they came up
with a software program there really wasn't any alternative.
Waiting for the TRUTH!

In ASA? Yeah, right. :^)

--

Regards,
Robert L Bass

Bass Burglar Alarms
The Online DIY Store
http://www.BassBurglarAlarms.com
 
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Jim

Jan 1, 1970
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Robert said:
Not to be picky, but the MA3000 *is* a Napco panel. I used to
program Napco by keypad on a regular basis... until they came up
with a software program there really wasn't any alternative.


In ASA? Yeah, right. :^)

Yeah Right. :-^)
 
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Nick Markowitz

Jan 1, 1970
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Of course how many residential users realy use there systems I would bet
only 25% of the ones I put in for ADT dealer are still actually being used
and almost all the residentials I put in and when the owner I put it in for
moved out the new owner does not use it. then there are those who only use
it when there on vacation.
and people wonder why i do not do residential work any more. Who needs the
headaches or the liabilty.
I will stay with the high risk commercail and inductrial any day.
 
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Crash Gordon

Jan 1, 1970
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Really. I'm just the opposite!...I'd much rather deal with loyal friendly
(and pay on time) homeowners...one on one...mostly custom homes. Dumped most
of my big commercial stuff, kept only the ones that are also homeowners of
mine.



| Of course how many residential users realy use there systems I would bet
| only 25% of the ones I put in for ADT dealer are still actually being used
| and almost all the residentials I put in and when the owner I put it in
for
| moved out the new owner does not use it. then there are those who only use
| it when there on vacation.
| and people wonder why i do not do residential work any more. Who needs the
| headaches or the liabilty.
| I will stay with the high risk commercail and inductrial any day.
|
|
|
 
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Robert Campbell

Jan 1, 1970
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Me too ! I feel exactly as you do Crash! Many if not most residential
clients really appreciate the personal service and stick with you through
thick or thin ! Some have become good friends.....

I'm on a drive to get rid of as many commercial accounts as I can. I'm
convinced they are nothing but a pain in the neck....difficulty of training
with changes of staff......user caused false alarms which occur regardless
of level of training......stupid, negligent service calls (fork lifts
running into motions)......constant upgrading of calling lists (when they
remember). The bigger the client, the more useless work......plus you as
often as not, have to chase them for money. I love service work, but not the
kind caused by blatant stupidity.....

With ADT takeovers coming in steady at 10 a month now, losing a few
troublesome commercial accounts is a blessing in disguise.....

RHC
 
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Crash Gordon

Jan 1, 1970
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Yeppers!

Oh you forgot the forklift operator who at 7 AM snags the overhead door
contact (which is installed at almost the top of the door) wiring & armored
switch dangling there ALL day...when do the call for service?....at 6 pm on
friday night.

Code changes and user changes used to make me nuts...some of them had 100
users. I used to do it for free, but that got ridiculous because they'd call
in a couple in the morning, a few more later in the day..so I started
charging a modest fee in not so much to make money but to get them to THINK
about NOT making changes hourly!

Nah, you can keep the big commercial stuff...too much of a pitb.


| Me too ! I feel exactly as you do Crash! Many if not most residential
| clients really appreciate the personal service and stick with you through
| thick or thin ! Some have become good friends.....
|
| I'm on a drive to get rid of as many commercial accounts as I can. I'm
| convinced they are nothing but a pain in the neck....difficulty of
training
| with changes of staff......user caused false alarms which occur regardless
| of level of training......stupid, negligent service calls (fork lifts
| running into motions)......constant upgrading of calling lists (when they
| remember). The bigger the client, the more useless work......plus you as
| often as not, have to chase them for money. I love service work, but not
the
| kind caused by blatant stupidity.....
|
| With ADT takeovers coming in steady at 10 a month now, losing a few
| troublesome commercial accounts is a blessing in disguise.....
|
| RHC
|
| | > Really. I'm just the opposite!...I'd much rather deal with loyal
friendly
| > (and pay on time) homeowners...one on one...mostly custom homes. Dumped
| > most
| > of my big commercial stuff, kept only the ones that are also homeowners
of
| > mine.
| >
| >
| >
| > | > | Of course how many residential users realy use there systems I would
bet
| > | only 25% of the ones I put in for ADT dealer are still actually being
| > used
| > | and almost all the residentials I put in and when the owner I put it
in
| > for
| > | moved out the new owner does not use it. then there are those who only
| > use
| > | it when there on vacation.
| > | and people wonder why i do not do residential work any more. Who needs
| > the
| > | headaches or the liabilty.
| > | I will stay with the high risk commercail and inductrial any day.
| > |
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
|
|
 
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Robert Campbell

Jan 1, 1970
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Ain't that the truth....

RHC

Crash Gordon said:
Yeppers!

Oh you forgot the forklift operator who at 7 AM snags the overhead door
contact (which is installed at almost the top of the door) wiring &
armored
switch dangling there ALL day...when do the call for service?....at 6 pm
on
friday night.
..
 
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Nick Markowitz

Jan 1, 1970
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My commercail customers who are my residential customers are great I have
the Bob Vella problem up here with residential every one can do it them
selves and the residential dont want to pay there bills up here either.
high end homes forget them they start building the home start ading too many
extras dont do good budgeting and that fancy system you are wirng gets down
sized who needs the headaches.

Ill take the fork lift operator at 6:00 am who hits a smoke
I have mostly small to mid size family owned commercail and industrial who
like the personel service and like intergration to save money and headaches.
plus they like all the cool toys i rig up in there plants.
no scheduling headaches either i just show up and work.
not rescheduled unless another contractor is screwing up.
residential does not want you in there homes from nov to feb and then they
dont have money to pay there bills etc etc.
Up here many service providers have split there companys and formed a
seprate residential entity to deal with the lawsuit headaches and everything
els residential cause up here. must be a different culture were you guys
are.
 
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Mike Sokoly

Jan 1, 1970
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Your not being picky. My intent was to say that if you could program an
MA3000 via the keypad you were pretty good!
I too programmed a lot via keypad but Napco HAS had a software program
for quite some time since the 1008 (LKDL) (DL=DownLoadable)
 
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