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RFI-EMI-GUY

Jan 1, 1970
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Well I spent a half hour of my life under the magnet of an "open" MRI
machine yesterday. Still a bit claustrophobic. While I sort of
understand the theory of the MRI, what I don't understand is what
creates all the noise and racket. Any experts out there that can tell me
whats going on?


--
Joe Leikhim K4SAT
"The RFI-EMI-GUY"©

"Treason doth never prosper: what's the reason?
For if it prosper, none dare call it treason."

"Follow The Money" ;-P
 
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Joerg

Jan 1, 1970
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RFI-EMI-GUY said:
Well I spent a half hour of my life under the magnet of an "open" MRI
machine yesterday. Still a bit claustrophobic. While I sort of
understand the theory of the MRI, what I don't understand is what
creates all the noise and racket. Any experts out there that can tell me
whats going on?

It's coming off the gradient magnets, usually. I hope all is ok and you
won't receive any nasty diagnosis from the session.
 
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Joerg

Jan 1, 1970
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Jim said:
A few years ago they scanned my sinuses.

I must admit a claustrophobic feeling also :-(

That's probably because you guys don't have a house with a narrow crawl
space. At least you can be sure that there won't be critters such as
rattle snakes waiting inside that MRI tube.
 
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J.A. Legris

Jan 1, 1970
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Pulsed gradient coils. These are "small" 3-axis coils that sweep a
gradient field across your innards, modulating the nuclear resonant
frequencies of your molecules to produce the spatial resolution. These
are generally water-cooled, with ballpark 20 KW constant-current
drivers per axis, playing all sorts of weird waveforms.

They scanned my head last year, with the gradient coils around my head
like some horror mask: noisy and boring.

John

Noisy & boring is right. I fell asleep briefly and was mildly scolded
for it - they could see my eyeballs rolling around.
 
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Bob Eld

Jan 1, 1970
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Joerg said:
That's probably because you guys don't have a house with a narrow crawl
space. At least you can be sure that there won't be critters such as
rattle snakes waiting inside that MRI tube.

I had a rattle snake in my garage a couple of weeks ago.
 
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Dirk Bruere at NeoPax

Jan 1, 1970
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John said:
Pulsed gradient coils. These are "small" 3-axis coils that sweep a
gradient field across your innards, modulating the nuclear resonant
frequencies of your molecules to produce the spatial resolution. These
are generally water-cooled, with ballpark 20 KW constant-current
drivers per axis, playing all sorts of weird waveforms.

They scanned my head last year, with the gradient coils around my head
like some horror mask: noisy and boring.

Any obvious neural effects from the scanning fields?
 
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Dirk Bruere at NeoPax

Jan 1, 1970
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Joerg said:
That's probably because you guys don't have a house with a narrow crawl
space. At least you can be sure that there won't be critters such as
rattle snakes waiting inside that MRI tube.

Is that because they check them every morning?
 
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RFI-EMI-GUY

Jan 1, 1970
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Joerg said:
It's coming off the gradient magnets, usually. I hope all is ok and you
won't receive any nasty diagnosis from the session.

Thanks, nothing serious except a bad pain in my neck C5/C6 disk
problems. It was a bit disheartening to hear the technician say "that
looks real bad, you should get that fixed" Then I remembered she said
same thing two years ago. The Dr reports it is same as before, only now
it hurts worse. I guess I gotta do something :(

--
Joe Leikhim K4SAT
"The RFI-EMI-GUY"©

"Treason doth never prosper: what's the reason?
For if it prosper, none dare call it treason."

"Follow The Money" ;-P
 
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RFI-EMI-GUY

Jan 1, 1970
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John said:
Pulsed gradient coils. These are "small" 3-axis coils that sweep a
gradient field across your innards, modulating the nuclear resonant
frequencies of your molecules to produce the spatial resolution. These
are generally water-cooled, with ballpark 20 KW constant-current
drivers per axis, playing all sorts of weird waveforms.

They scanned my head last year, with the gradient coils around my head
like some horror mask: noisy and boring.

John

Are they inside the machine or are they in the frame clamped around my
head and neck?

--
Joe Leikhim K4SAT
"The RFI-EMI-GUY"©

"Treason doth never prosper: what's the reason?
For if it prosper, none dare call it treason."

"Follow The Money" ;-P
 
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RFI-EMI-GUY

Jan 1, 1970
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Jim said:
A few years ago they scanned my sinuses.

I must admit a claustrophobic feeling also :-(

...Jim Thompson

I told the tech to give me a time check every so often so I wouldn't
lose my mind, then I worked out a design problem in my head for 30
minutes as a distraction. I can put up with a lot of stuff but being
inside or under that thing creeps me out. I keep having visions of
oxygen cylinders getting sucked through the drywall and crushing me or
the magnet quenching and getting burned in a puff of steam.

--
Joe Leikhim K4SAT
"The RFI-EMI-GUY"©

"Treason doth never prosper: what's the reason?
For if it prosper, none dare call it treason."

"Follow The Money" ;-P
 
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Joerg

Jan 1, 1970
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RFI-EMI-GUY said:
Thanks, nothing serious except a bad pain in my neck C5/C6 disk
problems. It was a bit disheartening to hear the technician say "that
looks real bad, you should get that fixed" Then I remembered she said
same thing two years ago. The Dr reports it is same as before, only now
it hurts worse. I guess I gotta do something :(

They should never say that. It's almost like a surgeon saying "Oh s..t!
That wasn't good."

Must be painful. My sore ones are L4/L5/L6. The docs never figured out
that I might have a magnesium deficiency. A CPA (!) gave me that hint.
Taking them big Costco pills since two years. Knock on wood, in those
two years it hasn't floored me once and that's a record.
 
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krw

Jan 1, 1970
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Pulsed gradient coils. These are "small" 3-axis coils that sweep a
gradient field across your innards, modulating the nuclear resonant
frequencies of your molecules to produce the spatial resolution. These
are generally water-cooled, with ballpark 20 KW constant-current
drivers per axis, playing all sorts of weird waveforms.

They're moving? Wires loose? It certainly is noisy.
I went into the tube last year. I'm pretty claustrophobic, but
handled it OK. Not a chance of sleeping though. I certainly was
ready to come out after a half-hour.
They scanned my head last year, with the gradient coils around my head
like some horror mask: noisy and boring.

Find anything? ;-)
 
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Dirk Bruere at NeoPax

Jan 1, 1970
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Well, bits of him twitching abnormally might be a sign.
Google TMS
 
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Spehro Pefhany

Jan 1, 1970
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What an absurd fear. It quenches, a lot of cold helium blows out, the
O2 in the room is displaced, and you die painlessly of asphixiation.

John

There are a number interesting modes of dying involving cryostats.

Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
 
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Joerg

Jan 1, 1970
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John said:
What an absurd fear. It quenches, a lot of cold helium blows out, the
O2 in the room is displaced, and you die painlessly of asphixiation.

Look at the bright side: Until you lose consciousness you can speak at a
high pitch like Mickey Mouse because of the helium. Should be fun ;-)
 
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T

Jan 1, 1970
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There are a number interesting modes of dying involving cryostats.

I had a full head MRI about a year ago. I don't suffer claustrophobia
and can tune out pretty much any noise. They actually had to nudge me
awake to put the gadolinium contrast IV in.
 
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