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  1. Andrew Holme

    Andrew Holme Guest

    In direct spread spectrum (DSS) a digitally encoded message is mixed with a
    pseudo-random sequence (noise) using an XOR gate. The XOR operation is
    reversible, and the intelligence is extracted at the receiving end by
    re-generating (and synchronising) an identical pseudo-random sequence, and
    XORing it with the signal. Without the correct correlated sequence to
    de-spread it, the transmission is just broadband noise.
  2. PeteS

    PeteS Guest

    Well, there are a number of methods of modulation.

    In the Analog sense, there are phase, frequency and amplitude (that is,
    the carrier is changed by the modulating signal in one of those
    aspects). For the analog model, the carrier (to be effective) must be a
    higher frequency than the greatest offset caused by the modulating
    signal. In AM, this is the band of frequencies of the modulating
    signal. For frequency modulation, it depends on the characteristics of
    the modulator. For phase, it can be very low, but should be at least
    the bandwidth of the modulating signal (as phase modulation has some AM

    In the digital world, other techniques apply. The addition to a PRBS
    sequence (noted above) is actually used commonly to maintain a
    (statistically) constant bandwidth on the channel regardless of whether
    there is a signal present or not. It might be argued by some that is
    not really modulation, but that's another story.

    There are other forms of digital modulation ( 8bit - 10 bit conversion
    is common) if we define modulation as making the signal suitable for
    the transmission medium ( normally it may be defined as imposing a
    variation onto one signal based on another - the modulating signal).

    In the digital arena, the final output rate must be at least equal to
    the symbol rate of the modulating signal plus any overhead rate. Note I
    use the term symbol rate, not bit rate. The symbol rate is sometimes
    known (accurately) as baud rate, whereas bit rate and buad rate are not
    synonymous except for bits per symbol = 1. To avoid the common
    confusion over the term, symbol rate is more commonly used.

    So there's a whole world of things to learn here - I suggest googling
    for some definitions.


  3. Bob Eldred

    Bob Eldred Guest

    If I understand your question, you are confucing modulation with simple
    mixing. In simple mixing the two signals are ADDED together and they can be
    easily separated by filtering. The signals do not interact or control each

    In modulation, the two signals are MULTIPLIED together, not added. In this
    way the amplitude of one signal is controlled by the other signal.
    Modualtion causes the amplitude or envelope of the higher frequency signal
    to change with the level of the lower frequency signal. Modualted signals
    cannot be separated by filtering. This is AM modulation. Other parameters
    besides amplitude may be used to control a modulated signal such as
    frequency and phase, FM and PM.

    There are no restrictions on what type of signals can modulate each other,
    sine waves, noise, audio, etc. However, there are practical restrictions on
    what makes good carriers. To avoid spurious signals, carries need to be
    clean sinewaves devoid of harmonics. Carriers are usually many times higher
    in frequency than the modualtion signals. Modulation always causes sum and
    difference frequencies that must be considered in any carrier system.
  4. John

    John Guest

    Hi all,

    I have a question about modulating one signal onto another. Take for
    example a sine wave and an audio signal. They are easy to combine and
    separate. But is this also possible with a random noise signal and an
    audio wave. Or are there restrictions to what signals can and can not
    be used as a carrier wave for other signals. And if so how are they

    Thanks for any help on this.

    Best regards,
  5. Bob Masta

    Bob Masta Guest

    As mentioned by another respondent, there are
    no limits for simple linear mixing.
    Assuming you are talking about amplitude modulation,
    there are also no limits. For frequency modulation, of
    course, the carrier needs a frequency to be modulated.
    That pretty much rules out broadband noise as a carrier for FM,
    at least in the conventional modulation sense. You
    could have a pseudorandom noise generator whose
    rate was modulated, however. For narrowband noise, you
    can modulate the center frequency.

    You might want to have a llook at my freeware DaqGen
    audio signal generator, which allows you to play around
    with various modulations and hear the results in real-time,
    as well as viewing the real-time waveform, spectra, and
    spectrograms. Besides standard waveforms, plus several
    types of noise sources, you can even load files of arbitrary
    waves and use them as modulation or carrier.

    Let me know if you have any questions.

    Best regards,

    Bob Masta

    D A Q A R T A
    Data AcQuisition And Real-Time Analysis
    Home of DaqGen, the FREEWARE signal generator
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