Microsoft screws up AGAIN. Now your programs may stop working !

[[email protected]]

I've run into some kind of peculiarity where I can't copy many files

to another directory, or to another drive on the network.

Yet I can, with some programs, "save-as" to another directory or drive.

Gosh..
Otoh.. it will proberbly be fixed in SP80.

 

[Jim Thompson]

Gosh..
Otoh.. it will proberbly be fixed in SP80.

Sno-o-o-ort ;-)

...Jim Thompson

 

[[email protected]]

Well, I also hung on as long as I could and would never in my right mind

At Dell it was not problem to order with XP. The sales guy there
actually anticipated that I was going to request that ;-)

Howcome the sales guy anticipated that ..?

The MS bribery makes them "recommend MS-Vista", but it seems they will still
do what customers ask them to, unless they ask for linux that is

 

[JosephKK]

Microsoft warns on Vista update

Microsoft is warning Windows Vista users that a forthcoming service pack
for the operating system may stop some third-party programs working.

The software giant has released a list of programs that may be broken by
the SP1 update for Vista.

Most of the software hit by the upgrade are security programs that
prevent Windows users falling prey to viruses, trojans and booby-trapped
webpages.

The Windows Vista update will be released to the public in mid-March

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7205059.stm

Just what kind of IDIOTS are they ?

Graham

The kind they have always been.

 

[JosephKK]

I have no idea.

Much agreed. The reports i get from the IT departments i deal with, are
that they still won't touch it.

 

[JosephKK]

I'm sorry I migrated to XP from 2K :-(

...Jim Thompson

That is a minor change in comparison.

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

Why would you want Zone Alarm? All it does is create problems. Anyone
on a fast connection has a firewall, so you don't need ZA. XP's
built-in firewall works better. We had fits setting up one of the new
laptops at work which caused problems on our network. I finally ripped
out the Symantec security suite which included some sort of firewall
thingy. Presto, no more problems.

'Zone Alarm' works. The Symantec crap doesn't, and never did. The
built in 'Windows firewall' is poor, at best. I have 'Zone Alarm' on my
home network(s), which is a mix of Win 98 to XP computers, wired and
wireless desktops and a couple laptops. After a couple simple mistakes
years ago, I have had ABSOLUTELY ZERO problems with 'Zone Alarm'. The
only problem with the current version is that it doesn't support
anything older than W2K. Install it, set an IP range for your local
network, set the 'Internet Zone Security' to 'medium', and you're in
business.


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

 

[JosephKK]

Getting a new computer with anything but MS-Vista might be hard. Remember that
MS is not a monopoly....
Seems the only sensible strategy is to have a XP installation disc around.
(Many times new computers don't even come with reinstallation discs.. doh)

Other than that there's: ReactOS, Wine, BSD/Linux

* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ReactOS

That is why i still have two unused XP pro install discs. And about
twenty different Linux distros laying around.

 

[JosephKK]

It seems that you, SoothSayer-at-TheMonastery.org,
Last Mimsy, or whatever, are the true Microsoftie
retard, covering your tracks by instructing that
your posts not be archived like the rest of us,
but instead that your slurs be erased in 6 days.

yep COB / always wrong / dimmie shows through on the first post seen.

 

[JosephKK]

Idiot. That has been the norm for decades.

Only for cowards that know much of what they say is wrong.

 

[JosephKK]

At least the top of MS aren't idiots when it comes to lining their pockets.
The ones getting sucked dry are their customers. Installing supriseware is
maybe not the best for mission critical stuff.

On top of all that, the serious lack of backward compatibility in office
2003, especially after the most recent service pack.

 

[mike]

The kind they have always been.

The kind that DOMINATE the computing world.

 

[[email protected]]

The ones getting sucked dry are their customers. Installing supriseware is

On top of all that, the serious lack of backward compatibility in office
2003, especially after the most recent service pack.

Now that would make it kind of less useful. The only reason to keep the junk
around is application compability and documents from ms-shops.

 

[JosephKK]

Now that would make it kind of less useful. The only reason to keep the junk
around is application compability and documents from ms-shops.

Looks like open office may become that standard bearer. What an
embarrassment for M$.

 

[JeffM]

Not even then. OOo is more M$-compatible than is M$O.

Looks like open office may become that standard bearer.

Yup. M$: foot, meet bullet.

What an embarrassment for M$.

Unless the techies start informing (or reminding)
the unwashed masses about the compatibility issues of the M$ apps,
they will continue to needlessly give $$ to the Borg.

Start the list with the M$O 2003 file-format-crippling nonsense.
Remind them that new versions of M$O have always had problems
reading documents created with previous versions of M$O
and that the solution has been to open those with OOo.

Move on to the OOXML fiasco--meaning even less compatibility.

When relating the virtues of OOo, start with the word FREE.
*More M$-compatible than M$ Office* was already mentioned.
..
..
The way WINE is more Windoze-compatible than is Vista
has been mentioned here and in a parallel thread.

The orchestra in Redmond is tuning up for the dirge.

 

[qrk]

Are you suggesting that Microsoft has added something to Windows to
make it detect Zone Alarm and mung the network if it finds it?

Not at all. I'm suggesting that Symantec has crappy apps that create
enough problems to make your computing experience a pain in the
glutious maximus. My past experience with ZA (a decade ago) was
horrid. Perhaps ZA is much improved. Anyway, if you have XP, the
built-in firewall works fine and you don't need all these silly
firewall addins.

 

[JosephKK]

Not even then. OOo is more M$-compatible than is M$O.

Yup. M$: foot, meet bullet.

Unless the techies start informing (or reminding)
the unwashed masses about the compatibility issues of the M$ apps,
they will continue to needlessly give $$ to the Borg.

Start the list with the M$O 2003 file-format-crippling nonsense.
Remind them that new versions of M$O have always had problems
reading documents created with previous versions of M$O
and that the solution has been to open those with OOo.

Move on to the OOXML fiasco--meaning even less compatibility.

When relating the virtues of OOo, start with the word FREE.
*More M$-compatible than M$ Office* was already mentioned.
.
.
The way WINE is more Windoze-compatible than is Vista
has been mentioned here and in a parallel thread.

The orchestra in Redmond is tuning up for the dirge.

Hooray! Let the band play!

 

[qrk]

I've run into some kind of peculiarity where I can't copy many files
to another directory, or to another drive on the network.

Yet I can, with some programs, "save-as" to another directory or
drive.

...Jim Thompson

That's a strange one. With XP, I've been able to copy whole disk
drives across a network. If you have a "security suite" (virus scanner
and other toys) running, turn all that crap off and see if things
behave. I just got done dealing with a machine that had Symantec which
screwed up the computer and screwed up our network. I've found out
from a friend who deals with a much larger bevy of computers that all
the Lenovo lap top computers they get, they load a fresh copy of the
OS because of all the crap IBM sticks on the machines. They had lots
of problems with Symantec.

Check to see if the XP firewall is enabled. If it is, try turning it
off. Be sure to turn it on when you go traveling. Never know what
lurks at a customer site or a hotel.

 

[MooseFET]

Looks like open office may become that standard bearer. What an
embarrassment for M$.

There is a plugin for OO that opens *.docx files.

 

[Jim Thompson]

On Sat, 23 Feb 2008 12:36:35 -0700, Jim Thompson

That's a strange one. With XP, I've been able to copy whole disk
drives across a network. If you have a "security suite" (virus scanner
and other toys) running, turn all that crap off and see if things
behave. I just got done dealing with a machine that had Symantec which
screwed up the computer and screwed up our network. I've found out
from a friend who deals with a much larger bevy of computers that all
the Lenovo lap top computers they get, they load a fresh copy of the
OS because of all the crap IBM sticks on the machines. They had lots
of problems with Symantec.

Check to see if the XP firewall is enabled. If it is, try turning it
off. Be sure to turn it on when you go traveling. Never know what
lurks at a customer site or a hotel.

AHA! I have a new Lenovo with problems, and Symantec on the other
machines. A'hunting I will go ;-)

What about virus protection? Is it really needed? Particularly
behind a router with all ports blocked?

...Jim Thompson