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Michael Slater

Jan 1, 1970
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Running south from Alice Springs is a 230km road/track/railbed that
reaches a tiny aboriginal community. Each June the Finke Desert Race
(http://www.finkedesertrace.com) is held as a two-day
there-and-back-again race.

The drivers are incredible. The fastest bikes and buggies finish a
leg in only a little over two hours. Driving it in a stock landcruiser
might take the better part of a day if you are taking your time and
enjoying the scenery.

Anyway, when we drove it last year we recorded the route with a GPS.
That's good for plotting locations, and to a lesser degree speed.
Afterwards I was daydreaming about having a device that would record
the severity of the road. The route is punishing and has a huge range
of surfaces (gravel roadways, sandy berms and dunes, giant 'whoops'
[imagine a washboard road where the washboards are three feet high]).

What would be an appropriate instrument to measure the "severity" of
the ride? Ideally it'd be a small instrument that dumped telemetry to
my laptop through a serial port. Knowing nothing about the subject, I
thought perhaps three accelerometers measuring three dimensionally
would work. Are those 'g-forces' what you'd want to measure, or is
the desired measurement the 'vibration' of the ride? Any
suggestions/ideas how to turn a daydream into something that works?

Regards
 
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Adrian Jansen

Jan 1, 1970
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A single accelerometer mounted to record vertical acceleration on the axle
of the vehicle would probably give you a pretty good idea of the severity.
Just do some test runs on various road surfaces for comparison. One of the
Pico range of A/D converters run into a parallel port on a laptop would be
an easy start for logging, provided the laptop survives.

--
Regards,

Adrian Jansen
J & K MicroSystems
Microcomputer solutions for industrial control
 
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Mike Page

Jan 1, 1970
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Michael said:
Running south from Alice Springs is a 230km road/track/railbed that
reaches a tiny aboriginal community. Each June the Finke Desert Race
(http://www.finkedesertrace.com) is held as a two-day
there-and-back-again race.

The drivers are incredible. The fastest bikes and buggies finish a
leg in only a little over two hours. Driving it in a stock landcruiser
might take the better part of a day if you are taking your time and
enjoying the scenery.

Anyway, when we drove it last year we recorded the route with a GPS.
That's good for plotting locations, and to a lesser degree speed.
Afterwards I was daydreaming about having a device that would record
the severity of the road. The route is punishing and has a huge range
of surfaces (gravel roadways, sandy berms and dunes, giant 'whoops'
[imagine a washboard road where the washboards are three feet high]).

What would be an appropriate instrument to measure the "severity" of
the ride? Ideally it'd be a small instrument that dumped telemetry to
my laptop through a serial port. Knowing nothing about the subject, I
thought perhaps three accelerometers measuring three dimensionally
would work. Are those 'g-forces' what you'd want to measure, or is
the desired measurement the 'vibration' of the ride? Any
suggestions/ideas how to turn a daydream into something that works?

Regards

There is a British standard that specifies acquisition and processing
techniques to assess "Ride and handling". As I recall there were 3 axes
and 6 filter sets for different psychological effects, and various
graphs so you can interpret your readings. It might be an EN
(euro-norme) now. I just can't remember (or find) the number. I might
even have a copy of it in storage.
 
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John Woodgate

Jan 1, 1970
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I read in sci.electronics.design that Mike Page <mike@SCRUBeclectic-
CAPSweb.BLAMEco.SWENuk> wrote (in <[email protected].
uk>) about 'Measure the severity of a road', on Fri, 23 Apr 2004:
It might be an EN (euro-norme) now. I just can't remember (or find) the number.

ENs are 'European Standards'. The word 'Euronorm' applies to standards
issued by the old Coal and Steel Community. Some of the numbers are
ambiguous, so if you use the wrong term you get the wrong document,
which may be expensive.
 
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Rob

Jan 1, 1970
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Michael Slater said:
Running south from Alice Springs is a 230km road/track/railbed that
reaches a tiny aboriginal community. Each June the Finke Desert Race
(http://www.finkedesertrace.com) is held as a two-day
there-and-back-again race.

The drivers are incredible. The fastest bikes and buggies finish a
leg in only a little over two hours. Driving it in a stock landcruiser
might take the better part of a day if you are taking your time and
enjoying the scenery.

Anyway, when we drove it last year we recorded the route with a GPS.
That's good for plotting locations, and to a lesser degree speed.
Afterwards I was daydreaming about having a device that would record
the severity of the road. The route is punishing and has a huge range
of surfaces (gravel roadways, sandy berms and dunes, giant 'whoops'
[imagine a washboard road where the washboards are three feet high]).

What would be an appropriate instrument to measure the "severity" of
the ride? Ideally it'd be a small instrument that dumped telemetry to
my laptop through a serial port. Knowing nothing about the subject, I
thought perhaps three accelerometers measuring three dimensionally
would work. Are those 'g-forces' what you'd want to measure, or is
the desired measurement the 'vibration' of the ride? Any
suggestions/ideas how to turn a daydream into something that works?

Regards

It's not a DIY solution but there are small self contained freight/transport
loggers that will log G forces. They are packed in with sensitive freight to
log the travel "experiece" of the goods.

I worked on a project some time back using Crossbow 3 axis accellerometers
with a peak hold circuit on each axis for a similar transport logging
application. Peak acceleration values were logged by an existing logging
system that was recording some other parameters.

rob
 
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onestone

Jan 1, 1970
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Having done this for Monster mining vehicles it is not quite as simple
as a 3D accelerometer. However you could get basic information with a 2D
accelerometer at each corner of the vehicle. You could then refine this
with further measurement at the CG of the vehicle.

Al
 
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