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  1. jenyc

    jenyc Guest

    Hello,
    I am in the process of learning Calculus; i am using "Calculus
    6e Early Transcendentals - Edwards and Penney"; this book covers basic
    Calculus and a bit of vectors.

    I haven't started out on the 'tronic text books in a through manner as
    yet since i hope to get the math grounding right; I don't want to have
    to keep running back to brush up on my math once i start out on
    'tronics.

    What would be YOUR "Must read!" MATH books for a budding EEE engineer.
     
  2. Paul Burke

    Paul Burke Guest

    A lot depends on how easy you find maths. "Engineering Mathematics", KA
    Stroud, is deservedly very popular in Britain:
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0831131527/002-0357580-4185652?v=glance&n=283155

    It has a progammatic approach, which takes you through in easy steps.
    The more mathematically inclined might find this irritating, but for
    most non- specialists, it seems a very good scheme. I learned from this
    book 30 years ago; my daughter is using the latest edition today.

    Paul Burke
     
  3. Nico Coesel

    Nico Coesel Guest

    Must read is a strong word, but I bought a copy of 'Modern Engineering
    mathematics' by Glyn James, publ. Addison Wesley. It has a lot of EE
    related examples.
     
  4. CF

    CF Guest

    I believe I'd learn to read and write English (or whatever your native
    language is) correctly first.

    Hello,
    I am in the process of learning Calculus; i am using "Calculus
    6e Early Transcendentals - Edwards and Penney"; this book covers basic
    Calculus and a bit of vectors.

    I haven't started out on the 'tronic text books in a through manner as
    yet since i hope to get the math grounding right; I don't want to have
    to keep running back to brush up on my math once i start out on
    'tronics.

    What would be YOUR "Must read!" MATH books for a budding EEE engineer.
     
  5. What the hell is an "EEE Engineer"? 4-E? I recall the farm kids were
    members of something like that. Nah, that was 4-H.

    You're self-taught? For EE you want Laplace and linear algebra and
    matrices and basic calculus and differential equations and maybe
    difference equations. Complex analysis is probably of less practical
    use. Also statistics and numerical analysis. Depends a bit on what
    you're planning to do. Some of the Schaum's outlines are good and they
    are quite inexpensive compared to university-level texts.


    Best regards,
    Spehro Pefhany
     
  6. Joel Kolstad

    Joel Kolstad Guest

    For a course in self-study, I'd second this recommendation. Stroud's book is
    one of the few that has enough already step-by-step solved problems and
    solutions in the back for the others that it's a decent substitute if you
    don't have a professor or TA around to provide such items. It makes the book
    quite thick, but it's paperback so it's still pretty inexpensive.

    For a more traditional-style math textbook, I like Peter O'Neil's "Advanced
    Engineering Mathematics."
    For whatever odd reason, I've found that a lot of text books from the UK have
    this "programmatic" approach which is often a lot more pragmatic for people
    who just want to get some job done rather than readying themselves for a
    career as a math professor. :)

    ---Joel Kolstad
     
  7. jenyc

    jenyc Guest

    Sorry 'bout the typo's. Is there a way to re-edit the post?

    The ; are legitimate. Hmm.. perhaps.. "I am in the process of learning
    Calculus; i am using "Calculus 6e Early Transcendentals - Edwards and
    Penney". This book covers basic
    Calculus and a bit of vectors." and "thorough"

    I am rather new to it, having just finished Lynn Truss's great book, so
    perhaps i am practising it a little too hard <grin>.
     
  8. jenyc

    jenyc Guest

    What the hell is an "EEE Engineer"? 4-E?
    EEE is a acronym for Electrical and Electronic Engineer..Oops, point
    Well, no! I attend college. Just started it recently. The prof's are
    great so i hope this
    doesn't reflect poorly on them. I wanted a few book suggestions from
    people in the field,
    which is why i posted.


    Phew! Anyway, this was my first post to newsgroups so sorry for the
    snafu's!

    I was hoping for some good book suggestions for Laplace Transforms,
    Fourier
    series, Complex Analysis, Complex Integration and Bessel functions.

    I just want to be able to read electronic-design text books and not
    have to keep
    running to check up on the mathematics involved. I don't know anything
    about
    design but i did read some posts on this newsgroup by John Popelish,
    Terry Given and lots of others about the math involved in filter design
    - poles
    and zeroes and the s-plane and stuff..Since i don't have a clue what a
    pole
    or a zero is, i was hoping for some book that would explain things to
    me
    very very simply.
     
  9. Joel Kolstad

    Joel Kolstad Guest

    At the level it sounds like you're at, if you're specifically interested in
    filter design, I'd suggest "Analog and Digital Filter Design" by Steve Winder.
    It contains enough of a math review that you'd likely understand what Terry &
    friends are discussing. Unfortunately, it's a somewhat expensive book for
    what it is, since if it's not available in your library I can't really
    recommend purchasing a new copy.
     
  10. Fred Bloggs

    Fred Bloggs Guest

    The book you have on hand is more than adequate for purposes of
    establishing a solid mathematical foundation. Engineering and science
    rely VERY heavily upon a good working knowledge of the transcendentals
    and their analytic properties, so the book is exactly right for
    engineering and science students. You can't think about complex analysis
    ( poles, zeroes ), the various transforms (LaPlace and Fourier), and the
    special functions (Bessel), without developing a good understanding of
    the material you're covering now. One last point is that your days of
    "reading" are over. The mathematical and technical literature is such
    that the idea of reading is an illusion, this material must be worked
    through with pencil and paper in hand, verifying conclusions that might
    be stated without exposition, solving excercises, answering questions,
    and working through examples. There are things called "trade magazines"
    that do not require this level of effort, but the majority of content is
    so much blither blather.
     
  11. Jim Thompson

    Jim Thompson Guest

    HALF-vast ;-)

    ...Jim Thompson
     

  12. Best regards,
    Spehro Pefhany
     
  13. Ban

    Ban Guest

    I would recommend a book which is specifically about DSP. It covers the most
    promising aspect of EE and you cannot start early enough. The second chapter
    is suitable for beginners, but you will always find it a reference even
    after intense study. It is expensive, so borrow it first from the Lib.
    Discrete-Time Signal Processing
    Oppenheim, Schafer
    Prentice-Hall 1999/1989
     
  14. Joel Kolstad

    Joel Kolstad Guest

    What makes you think DSP is "the most promising aspect of EE?"
    This is a good book; my college DSP classes were from Luca Lucchese, who was
    one of Oppenheim's students and used his book.
     
  15. Ban

    Ban Guest

    Pretty obvious, especially if a person is interested in maths. The analog
    guys are old farths like us in this NG and have become rare. And DSP is all
    about developing algorithms, pure math and implementing it into some MPUs,
    FPGAs, DSPs or whatever. Today it is as important to know Matlab as Spice,
    and even that is pure digital processing. I want to see the product that is
    still working analog. What's left is just the front-end interface to the A/D
    and even the sensors have digital outputs now. Power supplies, motor
    controls, even audio amps. what to say about automation, media, TV radio,
    cellphones ... Digital Signal Processing is already everywhere and has taken
    over the whole electronics industry, just like the transistor did with tubes
    some 40yrs. ago.
    Then you know how challenging it is. I refer to digital in its entity not
    only the specific tasks done by DSP-chips but all kind of logic.
     
  16. Joel Kolstad

    Joel Kolstad Guest

    Hi Ban,

    Sure, but I'd say that a key component of DSP is the analog front end -- high
    speed op-amps and ADCs -- and the back-end -- more op-amps and DACs. As such,
    good analog guys aren't going to be unemployed any time soon.
    There are still an awful lots of cheap AM and FM radios and TVs built that are
    pure analog. Obsolete technology, sure, but it's not going to completely die
    for awhile yet. (Yes, I am aware that plenty of better AM/FM radios and TVs
    perform significant processing digitally too.)
    There's a lot of meat in there -- it certainly takes a significant time
    investment to absorb it all -- but if you started at page 1 and went slowly
    but steadily the progression seemed pretty natural and straightforward. I did
    have a very good instructor though, so that impression might be a little off.
    (It was one of those classes were you learned 90+% of what you needed to know
    you learned in class, and the book served mainly as a reference and a source
    of homework problems. Much better than the classes with horrible lecturers
    where it's the book that teaches 90+%!)
     
  17. Fred Bloggs

    Fred Bloggs Guest

    The book by Steve Smith is respectable and a free download:
    http://www.dspguide.com/
    But why the hell you would recommend this to a freshman undergraduate
    who happens to be enrolled in EE, I will never know.
     
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