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Dave Plowman (News)

Jan 1, 1970
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Matsushita came up with the Panasonic name when they entered the US
market, to sound "More American". They felt the use of Matsushita would
hurt sales because it didn't look or sound "American"

In the UK we have one chain of electrical dealers whose own brand name is
Japanese sounding. I think they should have called it Lucas. ;-)
 
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William R. Walsh

Jan 1, 1970
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Hi!
1)Is Sharp Malaysian or Japanese? as most otheir products always said
"made in Malaysia"

Sharp Electronics is a Japanese company. They probably build things wherever
they can do so, as long as it is the cheapest place to do so. Their
headquarters in Japan is probably more devoted to business related work, and
not actual manufacturing. Drivers for their printers still appear to be
developed in Japan.
2)Why did Sony,RCA and Zenith tv quality dropped dramatically since
around 1990-3?

The most likely answer is that the buying public wanted things cheaper.
Things can only get so cheap (at least usually) before something gives.
Zenith might have been teetering on the edge of failure at that point, and
the RCA/GE brands had become part of Thomson Consumer Electronics around
that time.
3)When the owner of Sony died around 1990-3 why did the accountant get
the corporation?

Dunno. Not sure how you'd find out.
4)Why did the law in USA for manufacturers (any kind not just
electronics) being responsible for backing their products by parts &
service change from 7 years to 5 then nothing now?,meaning now you can
buy a product with no warranty and when parts are needed "sorry NLA".

No warranty? Now that I highly doubt.

As far as parts go, the way I've heard it is that manufacturers are under no
obligation to provide parts to the public...only authorized repair centers.
Any more, it is said that product lines and the technology used to produce
them are passed up by something "newer" (not always better--maybe "cheaper")
that providing parts and service over the long term doesn't make sense.

Many people don't care to repair something when it breaks anyway. They just
toss it, give it away or whatever and then buy something new.
5)Why did LG Goldstar decide to place Zenith crt's in many Goldstar
tv's since they bought Zenith from bankruptsy in 1996 or so?

Couldn't tell you for sure...I don't know if LG was/is in the picture tube
business. And the TVs may have really been built by Zenith to start with. If
when they bought Zenith, control over the entire operation became theirs (as
it surely did) someone may have decided that the picture tube manufacturing
facilities were an asset.
6)I noticed many JVC products have Panasonic parts what is the
relationship?

Perhaps it's a business relationship between the two. Some of the things in
a VCR are high precision parts that not anyone can make. It may be cheaper
for JVC to buy the parts and assemblies from someone else than to make them
in-house. In any case, few electronic devices have components that were made
by the company who assembled them.
7)Who invented VHS? Panasonic or JVC? or is it that JVC invented the
tape and Panasonic the machine?

As far as I know, it was JVC that invented VHS. (The JVC company makes this
claim.) Perhaps there was a marketing agreement between the two companies.
Such things happen quite often when a new technology comes out...companies
may form alliances with one another.
8)Why don't manufacturers in USA & Canada provide a large full page
schematic of their tv's & vcr's included in the owner's manual like
many parts of the world?.

People in the US don't generally want to repair anything. Also, it's getting
harder to find repair shops. There was a good one here that just disappeared
one day. To this day I still don't know why. They managed to do quite a
business. At one time the practice of providing service literature with a
product was common, however. I have a Montgomery Ward branded 19 inch table
TV (still working well) from the mid-80s that has a plastic compartment
containing a complete packet of service literature. Printed all over this
literature in red ink are notices stating that the documentation is the
property of the customer and should be returned with the set when it is
repaired.

William
 
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William R. Walsh

Jan 1, 1970
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Hi!
It's getting really bad in some cases: for example a lot of $899 HP
printers that are just a year or three old do not have ANY print
drivers available from HP for the latest 64-bit XP.

Now that is truly odd. I've found that HP has usually done a good job of
providing updated drivers for many older products. In my case, they had
updated the Mac OS X drivers to be "Universal" (Intel & PowerPC) software
for a DeskJet 5800 series printer. On the PC side of things, I was impressed
to note that XP/2000 drivers were available for my OfficeJet 500 series
machine.

As far as I'm aware, the 64 bit editions of Windows XP have not been hugely
popular, have a pile of limitations on what current software can run on
them, and much hardware doesn't appear to be supported.

William
 
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David Nebenzahl

Jan 1, 1970
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Michael A. Terrell spake thus:
Have you ever met a real, live UL inspector? I have, and all they
were worried about was the paperwork process used by my employer.

IOW, so long as it passed the ISO 9001 bureaucracy tests, they were happy?


--
"In 1964 Barry Goldwater declared: 'Elect me president, and I
will bomb the cities of Vietnam, defoliate the jungles, herd the
population into concentration camps and turn the country into a
wasteland.' But Lyndon Johnson said: 'No! No! No! Don't you dare do
that. Let ME do it.'"

- Characterization (paraphrased) of the 1964 Goldwater/Johnson
presidential race by Professor Irwin Corey, "The World's Foremost
Authority."
 
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Eeyore

Jan 1, 1970
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Dave Plowman (News) said:
I always assumed Panasonic was the premium brand of Matsushita. They are
or were heavily into the broadcast market. MII was the rival to Sony
Betacam, and arguably of better quality - so the VHS/Beta situation got
reversed there as Betacam was by far more popular.

You're definitely right about Panasonic being a Matsushita brand now that I
come to think of it.

JVC invented VHS though.

Graham
 
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Eeyore

Jan 1, 1970
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Dave Plowman (News) said:
In the UK we have one chain of electrical dealers whose own brand name is
Japanese sounding. I think they should have called it Lucas. ;-)

Don't forget they had both Saisho and Matsui.

Graham
 
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Eeyore

Jan 1, 1970
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William R. Walsh said:
Hi!


Now that is truly odd. I've found that HP has usually done a good job of
providing updated drivers for many older products.

Really ?

Easily a decade ago I recall getting a DJ500C ? and it wouldn't install on WFWG
it was 'unsupported' as a 'network printer'.

Graham
 
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Bob Urz

Jan 1, 1970
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Eeyore said:
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You're definitely right about Panasonic being a Matsushita brand now that I
come to think of it.
National and technics too.

Bob
 
Michael said:
Matsushita came up with the Panasonic name when they entered the US
market, to sound "More American". They felt the use of Matsushita would
hurt sales because it didn't look or sound "American"

Why didn't they use National, a brand name they had already been using
in the rest of the world, including Japan? Was it because the National
boy looked too much like Bob's Big Boy?
 
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William R. Walsh

Jan 1, 1970
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Hi!

Yep. I don't think I've ever had a DeskJet 500C in my possession, but I do
have a 500 and a 560C, both of which are still in active use. Both have been
attached to Windows for Workgroups machines and they worked fine in a
networked environment.

HP used to say that a lot of their printers were "not supported" as network
printers...I know the 600 and 660 were on that list. It involved a lot of
tinkering around, but I did get them working over a network. I wish I could
remember just how I'd done it--one of those printers wore out and the other
one, while still around, is hooked up to a much newer computer.

William
 
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Homer J Simpson

Jan 1, 1970
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Why didn't they use National, a brand name they had already been using
in the rest of the world, including Japan? Was it because the National
boy looked too much like Bob's Big Boy?

The Japanese mind?
 
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Michael A. Terrell

Jan 1, 1970
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Why didn't they use National, a brand name they had already been using
in the rest of the world, including Japan? Was it because the National
boy looked too much like Bob's Big Boy?


There was already a well known US company named National Radio that
made ham radio equipment and broadcast transmitters.


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
 
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Michael A. Terrell

Jan 1, 1970
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Eeyore said:
You're definitely right about Panasonic being a Matsushita brand now that I
come to think of it.

JVC invented VHS though.


JVC was part of a small consortium that bought the rights to Ampex's
cartridge video tape design when they decided not to enter the consumer
video tape market. IIRC, they paid a measly $10,000 for everything.


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
 
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Dave Plowman (News)

Jan 1, 1970
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You're definitely right about Panasonic being a Matsushita brand now that I
come to think of it.
JVC invented VHS though.

It became part of the Matsushita group - they bought 50% - in the early
'50s, so I'd guess it's simply a marketing thing.
 
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Dave Plowman (News)

Jan 1, 1970
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JVC was part of a small consortium that bought the rights to Ampex's
cartridge video tape design when they decided not to enter the consumer
video tape market. IIRC, they paid a measly $10,000 for everything.

Didn't know that. If you Google on helical scan the hits I looked at
credit Ampex with inventing this in '56 - but of course the original 2"
quadruplex pro machines weren't helical scan. They had the head at right
angles to the tape and achieved head wrap with vacuum. Four heads were
needed on the drum so one was always in contact with the tape - hence the
name. This was impractical for domestic use as you need a clean supply of
compressed air. Helical scan gets round this by having the head just off
in line with the tape and records along, rather than across, the tape and
only needs two heads on the drum. The tape itself can deform enough for
good head contact so no vacuum needed.

Ampex pro helical scan - 1" C Format - machines didn't appear until the
late '60s, although others had used it for semi-pro apps before.

So I do wonder who holds the patent on helical scan? More Googling is
needed...
 
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PhattyMo

Jan 1, 1970
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2)Why did Sony,RCA and Zenith tv quality dropped dramatically since
around 1990-3?

Probably because of:
3)When the owner of Sony died around 1990-3 why did the accountant get
the corporation?

Keyword= accountant.
 
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Michael A. Terrell

Jan 1, 1970
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Dave Plowman (News) said:
Didn't know that. If you Google on helical scan the hits I looked at
credit Ampex with inventing this in '56 - but of course the original 2"
quadruplex pro machines weren't helical scan. They had the head at right
angles to the tape and achieved head wrap with vacuum. Four heads were
needed on the drum so one was always in contact with the tape - hence the
name. This was impractical for domestic use as you need a clean supply of
compressed air. Helical scan gets round this by having the head just off
in line with the tape and records along, rather than across, the tape and
only needs two heads on the drum. The tape itself can deform enough for
good head contact so no vacuum needed.

Ampex pro helical scan - 1" C Format - machines didn't appear until the
late '60s, although others had used it for semi-pro apps before.

So I do wonder who holds the patent on helical scan? More Googling is
needed...


I would think they have expired, long ago. Open R-R 1/2" mono and
color machines were being sold by Panasonic, Shibaden and Sony by 1970
as "Industrial Video" for making training tapes and low grade
commercials. My high school got a Panasonic for the '69-'70 school year,
and only two tapes and a camera. It was to be used to time shift the
EDTV on PBS to when a teacher needed it. I had teachers demanding that
very show related to their class be recorded and archived on tape that
was $110 an hour.

The US Army was in the process of phasing out all of its 2" Ampex
machines to U-matic at Ft Rucker Alabama when I was stationed there in
'72-'73. Ever see a U-matic with a Tektronix nameplate? the military
wasn't allowed to purchase foreign made electronics, unless it was
supported by a well known US company, so the Sony machines were sold
through Tektronix.

BTW, two 2" machines and the associated equipment was in a full
length tractor trailer for remote shoots. Less than 20 years later I had
more capability in the back of the mobile production unit I built in a
standard length van for WACX in Orlando.


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
 
Eeyore said:
"William R. Walsh" wrote:
Really ?

Easily a decade ago I recall getting a DJ500C ? and it wouldn't install on WFWG
it was 'unsupported' as a 'network printer'.

Is that a control-panel-less printer? If not, more or less all printers
will run on a whole host of other-model drivers. If a driver isnt
availble I just pick something else with the same type of print, ie
same resolution and same print technology (inkjet/dm/daisy/laser etc)
and same manufacturer. The differences tend to lie in very minor points
that arent a problem in practice.


NT
 
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JW

Jan 1, 1970
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I've *never* see a schematic in an owner's manual ever !

I did. Once. It was a 13" Goldstar purchased around 1984 or so. Of course
the thing lasted till the CRT finaly faded out (14 years!)
 
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Eeyore

Jan 1, 1970
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Why didn't they use National, a brand name they had already been using
in the rest of the world, including Japan? Was it because the National
boy looked too much like Bob's Big Boy?

Too downmarket I think.

Graham
 
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