Magnet motor?

[John Larkin]

Um, So I guess you believe that magnets cannot do work? Guess you never
picked up anything with one? What about solar energy? or nuclear energy?
They are even better than perpetual motion... its free energy.

Do you really think that if we didn't have "perpetual" motion that we would
even be able to do anything? The human body is perpetual motion.

If you talk about getting more energy out than you put in then its easily
done and done all the time(many people, your probably one of them, do it
all the time while "working"). If its a closed system and you take the net
energy then its a different matter.

Nuclear energy, solar, energy, and the human body are "perpetual" for all
practical purposes. Actually perpetual motion is a hypothesis and not a
fact. It is also not conservation of energy. It only supposes that the
entropy is 0 and not negative. The 2nd law does state that entropy increases
over time but technically it could be constant too(quasi increasing). The
subtle point I'm trying to make is that for pratical purposes it depends
only on maximizing efficiency.

In any case, you are forgetting, I guess in your old age!?!, that magnets
have the ability to do work. Something created the magnets and did work on
it and those magnets can use that energy to do work(same principle as
nuclear energy or chemical energy or whatever else). This is why natural
magnets loose there magnetism over time.

So for the original post, it is possible but chances are the friction is to
much for the magnets. One could get practical perpetual motion by using
solar energy to overcome the fricition. It might not technically be
perpetual motion according to physics but no one would be around to see it
stop.

Hell, we don't even know if gravity is conservative but we treat it as so
for all practical purposes. I guess your problem is that you have to
distinguish free energy devices from practical perpetual motion. The guy
isn't claiming is device will run for ever and probably doesn't care. I'm
sure he would be happy if it ran for a few hours.

Schizoid ravings.

John

 

[neon]

the first answer is correct the force is not linear but varies as the square of the distance.electromagnetics will work with proper timing of forces.

 

[Jon Slaughter]

Schizoid ravings.

I guess you expect to impress people with your psychology analysis? Go back
and learn some physics instead.

 

[Robert Latest]

Um, So I guess you believe that magnets cannot do work? Guess you never
picked up anything with one? What about solar energy? or nuclear energy?
They are even better than perpetual motion... its free energy.

Where do you get uranium for free? Or solar cells? Interesting. Name some
sources, please.

Nuclear energy, solar, energy, and the human body are "perpetual" for all
practical purposes. Actually perpetual motion is a hypothesis and not a
fact. It is also not conservation of energy. It only supposes that the
entropy is 0 and not negative. The 2nd law does state that entropy increases
over time but technically it could be constant too(quasi increasing). The
subtle point I'm trying to make is that for pratical purposes it depends
only on maximizing efficiency.

Well, I'm glad that someone FINALLY did the math behind perpetual motion and
put things into a proper perspective.

Speaking of maximizing efficiency: Maybe your motor machine will work if you
put a ball bearing into the plastic wheel?

robert

 

[Robert Baer]

I have a problem with my magnet motor design.
It is based on a wheel continually rolling down a sloping disk.
The disk is tilted up by repelling magnets, creating a pushing wave
directly behind the wheel.

The magnets are repelling each other okay, but will NOT slide easily
past each other.

Is there a way to fix the problem?

Thanks for your time.

Mike Flanagan UK

Please see the model here:
http://motor-stuff.tripod.com

Sounds like you think you can use magnets only to generate more than
enough force to overcome frictional losses.
Sorry, wake up!

 

[Don Lancaster]

Perpetual motion requires 29 magnets on your disc, you only have 28. Sigh,
it's always something. ;-)
Mike

You have to apply for an exemption to the second law of thermodynamics.

We have one time licenses for this available for $999 each.


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[John Larkin]

You have to apply for an exemption to the second law of thermodynamics.

We have one time licenses for this available for $999 each.

Do you have anything shorter term, like for the weekend maybe?

John

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

Do you have anything shorter term, like for the weekend maybe?

John

Sure, but why pay him $666, just for the weekend?


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