Magnet-Motor (Free electricity?)

[mpm]

This short video describes an Austrailian inventor discussing his
magnet-motor household generator. The claim is that once started with
a small battery, the device can basically generate free electricity.
I recall that 24kWh/day was quoted in the video, but they may have
meant 24kW. (30kVA)

Anyone care to comment...?

-mpm

 

[PeterD]

This short video describes an Austrailian inventor discussing his
magnet-motor household generator. The claim is that once started with
a small battery, the device can basically generate free electricity.
I recall that 24kWh/day was quoted in the video, but they may have
meant 24kW. (30kVA)

Anyone care to comment...?

-mpm

Bwa-ha-ha-ha-ha...

Listen carefully to the huckester's prattle. A minute or two he says
something that put me on the floor laughing: "We don't need to prove
ourselves"!

**Begin the theme song**

Now look at them yo-yos thats the way you do it
You play the guitar on the mtv
That aint workin thats the way you do it
Money for nothin and chicks for free
Now that aint workin thats the way you do it
Lemme tell ya them guys aint dumb
Maybe get a blister on your little finger
Maybe get a blister on your thumb

We gotta install microwave ovens
Custom kitchen deliveries
We gotta move these refrigerators
We gotta move these colour tvs

See the little faggot with the earring and the makeup
Yeah buddy thats his own hair
That little faggot got his own jet airplane
That little faggot hes a millionaire

We gotta install microwave ovesns
Custom kitchens deliveries
We gotta move these refrigerators
We gotta move these colour tvs

I shoulda learned to play the guitar
I shoulda learned to play them drums
Look at that mama, she got it stickin in the camera
Man we could have some fun
And hes up there, whats that? hawaiian noises?
Bangin on the bongoes like a chimpanzee
That aint workin thats the way you do it
Get your money for nothin get your chicks for free

We gotta install microwave ovens
Custom kitchen deliveries
We gotta move these refrigerators
We gotta move these colour tvs, lord

Now that aint workin thats the way you do it
You play the guitar on the mtv
That aint workin thats the way you do it
Money for nothin and your chicks for free
Money for nothin and chicks for free

 

[MooseFET]

This short video describes an Austrailian inventor discussing his
magnet-motor household generator. The claim is that once started with
a small battery, the device can basically generate free electricity.
I recall that 24kWh/day was quoted in the video, but they may have
meant 24kW. (30kVA)

Anyone care to comment...?

"magnet motors" and "gravity machines" have been around for ages.
They are either people who have fooled themselves or people who are
trying to fool you.

The thing I have always found funny is that nobody has ever made a
"spring machine". Springs can fit a lot more power into the same
size.

 

[Adrian C]

This short video describes an Austrailian inventor discussing his
magnet-motor household generator. The claim is that once started with
a small battery, the device can basically generate free electricity.
I recall that 24kWh/day was quoted in the video, but they may have
meant 24kW. (30kVA)

The video to youtube went up this february. Between that time and now if
the idea had any momentum it would have exploded and we'd all be talking
about it. As it has disapeared - evidently it has been peer reviewed and
found lacking.

I'd be scouring the Austrailian press for incidences of folks losing
money on this.

 

[[email protected]]

This short video describes an Austrailian inventor discussing his
magnet-motor household generator. The claim is that once started with
a small battery, the device can basically generate free electricity.
I recall that 24kWh/day was quoted in the video, but they may have
meant 24kW. (30kVA)

Anyone care to comment...?

-mpm

"tanstaafl", (R.A Heinlein)

George Herold

 

[Dirk Bruere at NeoPax]

This short video describes an Austrailian inventor discussing his
magnet-motor household generator. The claim is that once started with
a small battery, the device can basically generate free electricity.
I recall that 24kWh/day was quoted in the video, but they may have
meant 24kW. (30kVA)

Anyone care to comment...?

-mpm

All he has to do is show me a working model, and allow me to test it,
and I could get him $millions in funding within days.

--
Dirk

http://www.transcendence.me.uk/ - Transcendence UK
http://www.theconsensus.org/ - A UK political party
http://www.onetribe.me.uk/wordpress/?cat=5 - Our podcasts on weird stuff

 

[linnix]

Well, I'm ready to invest. I'll put this guy in touch with my Nigerian
banker ASAP!

Why bother with inventions. The Nigerian banker were ready to send me
2.5 millions. He gave me a Western Union account number with 500K for
verification. I just need to insure the package with 300 dollars.
Unfortunately, my wife wouldn't let me talk to the banker anymore.
There goes my dream of 2.5 millions.

 

[krw]

[email protected]>, [email protected]
says...

I had the same idea in the early '70's, when I was about 12. And no one
could offer a convincing argument as to why it might fail except the science
teacher I had at the time. Mother Nature is a stingy bitch, and she gives
nothing away free. Unfortunately I talked about it too much, and someone in
a nearby city got a patent on the device in '76. Later, when I learned a
little more about physics and magnets, even I could see that the idea was
doomed from the start. But the guy in San Antonio TX still got a U.S.
Patent on it. Don't remember the number or the name, and am not inclined to
look it up. It's BS. Only a conceited 12-year-old could possibly tout such
an idea as feasible. And even he would look like an idiot.

PS: The secret is, you surround a rotor containing three magnets with a
housing containing four magnets, all equidistant from each other. That way,
as the rotor begins to spin, there are always two magnets pulling or pushing
forward and only one pulling/pushing backward. And yes, it is still
bullshit, but there's a sucker born every minute, just like P.T. Barnum
insisted.

How about putting large wheels on the back of your car and little
ones on the frond, so it's always going down hill?

 

[Dirk Bruere at NeoPax]

Ah, but your revenge is that he spent $10k on a useless patent, and you
didn't.

And his revenge is a patent system that grants such ludicrous patents.

--
Dirk

http://www.transcendence.me.uk/ - Transcendence UK
http://www.theconsensus.org/ - A UK political party
http://www.onetribe.me.uk/wordpress/?cat=5 - Our podcasts on weird stuff

 

[mpm]

[email protected]>, [email protected]
says...





How about putting large wheels on the back of your car and little
ones on the frond, so it's always going down hill?

 

[Jasen Betts]

This short video describes an Austrailian inventor discussing his
magnet-motor household generator. The claim is that once started with
a small battery, the device can basically generate free electricity.
I recall that 24kWh/day was quoted in the video, but they may have
meant 24kW. (30kVA)

Anyone care to comment...?

hand-held DMMs crest factor.

Bye.
Jasen

 

[The Real Andy]

I had the same idea in the early '70's, when I was about 12. And no one
could offer a convincing argument as to why it might fail except the science
teacher I had at the time. Mother Nature is a stingy bitch, and she gives
nothing away free. Unfortunately I talked about it too much, and someone in
a nearby city got a patent on the device in '76. Later, when I learned a
little more about physics and magnets, even I could see that the idea was
doomed from the start. But the guy in San Antonio TX still got a U.S.
Patent on it. Don't remember the number or the name, and am not inclined to
look it up. It's BS. Only a conceited 12-year-old could possibly tout such
an idea as feasible. And even he would look like an idiot.

PS: The secret is, you surround a rotor containing three magnets with a
housing containing four magnets, all equidistant from each other. That way,
as the rotor begins to spin, there are always two magnets pulling or pushing
forward and only one pulling/pushing backward. And yes, it is still
bullshit, but there's a sucker born every minute, just like P.T. Barnum
insisted.

Dave

Some university has one of these machines that spins for 5 days. I
thought that was pretty impressive. Cant remember the uni, perhaps
MIT?

 

[Frank Buss]

This short video describes an Austrailian inventor discussing his
magnet-motor household generator. The claim is that once started with
a small battery, the device can basically generate free electricity.
I recall that 24kWh/day was quoted in the video, but they may have
meant 24kW. (30kVA)

Anyone care to comment...?

They have even a patent in some countries, which explains the construction,
so everyone can build their own motor and verify it. The inventors website:

http://www.lutec.com.au

The patent:

http://www.google.com/patents?id=gdgNAAAAEBAJ&dq=6630806

But looks like it doesn't work:

http://freeenergynews.com/Directory/Lutec1000/#Negative_Result_Reports

 

[Dirk Bruere at NeoPax]

They have even a patent in some countries, which explains the construction,
so everyone can build their own motor and verify it. The inventors website:

http://www.lutec.com.au

The patent:

http://www.google.com/patents?id=gdgNAAAAEBAJ&dq=6630806

But looks like it doesn't work:

http://freeenergynews.com/Directory/Lutec1000/#Negative_Result_Reports

If anyone claims to have a "free energy" device then all they have to do
is show it producing excess energy *after* running it using some of the
tapped off output - no external input.

--
Dirk

http://www.transcendence.me.uk/ - Transcendence UK
http://www.theconsensus.org/ - A UK political party
http://www.onetribe.me.uk/wordpress/?cat=5 - Our podcasts on weird stuff

 

[Spehro Pefhany]

If anyone claims to have a "free energy" device then all they have to do
is show it producing excess energy *after* running it using some of the
tapped off output - no external input.

And no consumable internal power source (eg. batteries).


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany

 

[Tony]

The video to youtube went up this february. Between that time and now if
the idea had any momentum it would have exploded and we'd all be talking
about it. As it has disapeared - evidently it has been peer reviewed and
found lacking.

I'd be scouring the Austrailian press for incidences of folks losing
money on this.

It's been around much longer than that. AFAICR it started with a pseudo-technical book of
fiction written by an ex Jumbo pilot, that was adopted as a text book by groups of loonies
all over the world. I was invited to a demonstration in Brisbane where I live, and
explained to my wildly enthusiastic (but not so technical) friend that on the day there
would be some reasonable explanation why it didn't quite meet its claims on the day of the
demonstration, and sure enough, the "good" magnets were away being re-magnetized. With the
"bad" magnets, the machine managed only 90% efficiency, but the "good" magnets had double
the energy, so any fool could see that they would produce 180% efficiency (not me, of
course, because I had been brainwashed by the traditionalist education system run by the
oil companies to suppress all such breakthrough technology). Soon after that I heard that
the person who put on the demonstration had sold his house, donated the proceeds to a
consortium to develop the technology, and moved to New Zealand to be with them and share
the dream.

Tony

 

[Rich Grise]

This short video describes an Austrailian inventor discussing his
magnet-motor household generator. The claim is that once started with a
small battery, the device can basically generate free electricity. I
recall that 24kWh/day was quoted in the video, but they may have meant
24kW. (30kVA)

Anyone care to comment...?

My Mom taught me to read before I even started school. At age 7 or so,
I was reading the encyclopedia recreationally. It was called "Richard's
Topical Encyclopedia", and was arranged in categories. One of the chapters
was all about perpetual motion, giving a whole bunch of examples, and
explaining exactly why none of them would work.

Turns out to be one of Newton's Laws, I think. ;-)

Now, if someone could conjur up a Zero-Point Daemon, that'd be something!

Cheers!
Rich

 

[Rich Grise]

How about putting large wheels on the back of your car and little ones on
the frond, so it's always going down hill?

I saw Red Skelton do that gag with horseshoes. The front ones were normal
horseshoes, and the back ones were about 12" tall.

Cheers!
Rich

 

[Rich Grise]

Some university has one of these machines that spins for 5 days. I thought
that was pretty impressive. Cant remember the uni, perhaps MIT?

My Grandmother had a clock that you only had to wind about once every
three months.

Cheers!
Rich

 

[Nico Coesel]

This short video describes an Austrailian inventor discussing his
magnet-motor household generator. The claim is that once started with
a small battery, the device can basically generate free electricity.
I recall that 24kWh/day was quoted in the video, but they may have
meant 24kW. (30kVA)

Anyone care to comment...?

Yes, if such a device needs to be started, it can't produce free
energy.