Looking to build a simple solar powered hi voltage low current power supply

[Robert Miller]

I need to build a solar powered colloidal silver generator. To treat my
water on camping trips. As both a practical way to treat water for drinking
and for the
coolness factor of having built something practical that does not need
batteries.

I've built DC voltage multipliers before with the diodes and caps in a lader
fashon. They are not very efficient. So I know I need to build an RL
circuit.
then I guess I need a transformer to step up the voltage.
I would like to step the voltage up to at least 600 volts or as high as 2k
volts
I don't need much current. The device I use now is a simple three 9 volt
batteries in series with .999 fine silver for the cathode and for the anode.


I treat a solution of distilled water which I then pour into the water I'm
treating.
From what I understand the higher the voltage the more stable the silver
ions in sollution, and the greater the percentage of nano-meter sized silver
particles
which are the most effective at killing bacteria, fungi, and virus's.

At just 5 parts per million this sollution is said to kill bacteria in 4 to
5 minutes
with no toxic side effects.

This sollution will even kill pathogens like Anthrax, Small Pox, and
Malaria.

Thanks in advance for any ideas or input!
Robert Miller

 

[Eeyore]

I need to build a solar powered colloidal silver generator.

AFAIK you can't 'generate' silver from electricity !

Graham

 

[Eeyore]

This sollution will even kill pathogens like Anthrax, Small Pox, and
Malaria.

You catch malaria as aresult of being bitten by an infected mosquito.

Graham

 

[Fred Bartoli]

Eeyore a écrit :

You catch malaria as aresult of being bitten by an infected mosquito.

....but if you didn't kill it with a silver bullet?

 

[MooseFET]

Eeyore a écrit :





...but if you didn't kill it with a silver bullet?

No, you have to drive a wooden stake through its heart.

 

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I need to build a solar powered colloidal silver generator. To treat my
water on camping trips. As both a practical way to treat water for drinking
and for the
coolness factor of having built something practical that does not need
batteries.

I've built DC voltage multipliers before with the diodes and caps in a lader
fashon. They are not very efficient. So I know I need to build an RL
circuit.
then I guess I need a transformer to step up the voltage.
I would like to step the voltage up to at least 600 volts or as high as 2k
volts
I don't need much current. The device I use now is a simple three 9 volt
batteries in series with .999 fine silver for the cathode and for the anode.


I treat a solution of distilled water which I then pour into the water I'm
treating.
From what I understand the higher the voltage the more stable the silver
ions in sollution, and the greater the percentage of nano-meter sized silver
particles
which are the most effective at killing bacteria, fungi, and virus's.

At just 5 parts per million this sollution is said to kill bacteria in 4 to
5 minutes
with no toxic side effects.

This sollution will even kill pathogens like Anthrax, Small Pox, and
Malaria.

Thanks in advance for any ideas or input!
Robert Miller

This simple circuit will output around 50 volts with no load.

http://www.cappels.org/dproj/ledpage/leddrv.htm

go for the second example - the one called "A Circuit Enhancement"

You can just as easily wind a secondary for even more output voltage
if you want.

 

[default]

AFAIK you can't 'generate' silver from electricity !

Graham

The silver is supposed to come from the silver electrodes - they
corrode leaving some super small particles suspended in the water.

In theory at least . . .

Silver has bacteriostatic properties and is a weak bactericide.

Personally, I think the "colloidal silver" hype is just a lot of
snake oil, but someone has to test this crap . . .

Copper might be just as effective without the electrolysis since it
tends to be a much stronger bactericide and corrodes fairly easily,
but unlike silver it is easier to OD on too much of a good thing.

 

[martin griffith]

The silver is supposed to come from the silver electrodes - they
corrode leaving some super small particles suspended in the water.

In theory at least . . .

Silver has bacteriostatic properties and is a weak bactericide.

Personally, I think the "colloidal silver" hype is just a lot of
snake oil, but someone has to test this crap . . .

Copper might be just as effective without the electrolysis since it
tends to be a much stronger bactericide and corrodes fairly easily,
but unlike silver it is easier to OD on too much of a good thing.

A few years ago I designed the hardware to automate the filling of
water cooler bottles. The company had a patent on how they did it, but
they used colloidal Ag as the steriliser, and it passed all the
bacteriological tests.


martin

 

[default]

A few years ago I designed the hardware to automate the filling of
water cooler bottles. The company had a patent on how they did it, but
they used colloidal Ag as the steriliser, and it passed all the
bacteriological tests.


martin

That's impressive. Any idea of the quantity of silver in suspension
and how they measured it?

 

[martin griffith]

That's impressive. Any idea of the quantity of silver in suspension
and how they measured it?

It wasn't that impressive, about 3 or 400 lines of C on an 8051, most
of it was system self checking, and extreme idiotproofing and a rugid
optical isolated i/o interface.
It was straight linear drop through C, very simple

They just gave us the Ag solution, the containers only had "
sterilising fluid" on them. In those days I didn't even know it was
Ag,


martin

 

[default]

It wasn't that impressive, about 3 or 400 lines of C on an 8051, most
of it was system self checking, and extreme idiotproofing and a rugid
optical isolated i/o interface.
It was straight linear drop through C, very simple

They just gave us the Ag solution, the containers only had "
sterilising fluid" on them. In those days I didn't even know it was
Ag,


martin

The 3-400 lines of C on an 8051? 3-4 hundred lines of code on an 8051
controller?

So I guess you're saying that there was a way to check the strength of
the fluid you were being supplied?

I wondered more about the detection technique. Conductivity or
particle size, automatic titration or something more sophisticated?
Did you check the solution itself or the rinse water?

 

[martin griffith]

The 3-400 lines of C on an 8051? 3-4 hundred lines of code on an 8051
controller?

So I guess you're saying that there was a way to check the strength of
the fluid you were being supplied?

I wondered more about the detection technique. Conductivity or
particle size, automatic titration or something more sophisticated?
Did you check the solution itself or the rinse water?

ISTR at89c51, but since the systems were hired out, there was
significant datalogging, checking flow rates and to prevent
moonlighting.

We used a simple conductivity meter, (10V dc, 100K resistor, and a
comparator) to make sure they didn't try and swap the sterilising
agent with a bottle of water, or try to run it without the sterilising
agent

There was no testing of the fluid, in the software specs


martin

 

[mpm]

At just 5 parts per million this sollution is said to kill bacteria in 4 to
5 minutes
with no toxic side effects.

This sollution will even kill pathogens like Anthrax, Small Pox, and
Malaria.

Couldn't you just take along a Tibetan monk when you go camping..?

http://www.life-enthusiast.com/twilight/research_emoto.htm

 

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ISTR at89c51, but since the systems were hired out, there was
significant datalogging, checking flow rates and to prevent
moonlighting.

We used a simple conductivity meter, (10V dc, 100K resistor, and a
comparator) to make sure they didn't try and swap the sterilising
agent with a bottle of water, or try to run it without the sterilising
agent

There was no testing of the fluid, in the software specs


martin

Oh. I worked in pharmaceuticals we had several grades of water
cleaner than drinking water.

"Water for Injection" the highest standard for normal use. Pyrogen
free.

"Reagent grade water" as good as WFI but with a known assay of
contaminants.

And "water" in 15 ml flame sealed vials certified by the NBS or
traceable to them - presumably this was hydrogen and oxygen and
nothing else.

D.I. and distilled - for the crude work like dissolving tablets
rinsing glassware etc..

I've heard all the colloidal silver stuff from a cousin discovering
her spirituality in California . . . so I attach some skepticism to it
(despite, or perhaps because, I lived in CA)

It is interesting to know that someone thinks there's a real reason to
be using the stuff.

and prompts the question " would we be better off with silver
goblets?" In my case, beer mugs.

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

No, you have to drive a wooden stake through its heart.

That doesn't work on lawyers. You'd need a toothpick.


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

 

[Fred Bartoli]

Michael A. Terrell a écrit :

That doesn't work on lawyers. You'd need a toothpick.

LOL, I like the idea!
Imagine having a drink with a tray of roosted lawyers!

 

[Jasen Betts]

That doesn't work on lawyers. You'd need a toothpick.

It must be petrified wood, regular wood isn't hard enough.

Bye.
Jasen

 

[neon]

well on a cloudy rainy day you will have no water. neverthless a solar panel $15 12v output a LM555 and a diode cap pump may gets you there from 120 i got 15kv at 12 volts that is going to be way down. power is my concerne a 12 volt solar is as heavy as 5 9v battery so i would say possible but not likely.