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leftist energy assistance programs needs to be outlawed!

Discussion in 'Electronic Basics' started by AC/DCdude17, Jul 21, 2003.

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  1. AC/DCdude17

    AC/DCdude17 Guest

    X-No-Archive: Yes

    Our power company charges a fixed low income assistance charge and a

    percentage based low income housing and community service charge from
    customer. The power company have no choice. The
    government is making them do it. The low income customers are given
    REDUCED rates courtesy of involuntary donation other customers are
    forced to make by power of law.

    This is a government operated class discrimination that must be
  2. A E

    A E Guest

    I think off-topic posts should be banned, and that to enforce this rule, a
    service charge should be applied to every post.
  3. Haines Brown

    Haines Brown Guest

    Your comment is OT for the list, and so I'll be brief and try not to
    carry the thread forward.

    First, all governments in the whole of history have engaged in what is
    called economic redistribution. Also, philosophical arguments against
    redistribution tend to be particularly American, recent and to work
    from contested axioms. So there is nothing self-evidently wrong with
    redistribution, and the burden falls on you to build a case.

    If you have objections to redistribution in practice, you need to be
    specific; if you object in principle, you need to justify your
    position somehow, particularly your starting axioms. That is, you
    can't just state your objection and presume everyone else will fall in
    line. Did you make your statement here because you knew folks would
    hesitate to criticize because doing so would be OT?

    Second, while redistribution generally requires discrimination (it
    distinguishes rich from poor), it is not obvious there is anything
    intrinsically wrong with discrimination. If I help a little old lady
    across the street, am I not engaged in age discrimination? Further, it
    is not "class" discrimination at all. An empiricist definition of
    class is sociologically inoperative, and so I suggest you not use the
    word here. To be persuasive, you must say what you mean.

    Third, redistribution has nothing to do with the "left." The present
    regime in the U.S. is clearly capitalist, and redistribution is
    clearly a long-term capitalist policy. The left would do away with
    capitalism and its tendency to generate gross social inequities. If
    productive property were socially owned and controlled (the aim of the
    left), then, while there would still be some need for redistribution,
    with the removal of the principal source of inequity the
    redistribution would probably become far less significant. That is, if
    you don't like redistribution (such as by insurance companies), then
    you should probably be supporting the left.
  4. Tom Biasi

    Tom Biasi Guest

    Snip>>> four paragraphs of anything but brief commentary.
  5. AC/DCdude17

    AC/DCdude17 Guest

    X-No-Archive: Yes

    I thought I posted to one of the politics group that is sometimes cross
    posted here, but being a regular I accidentally posted here as if it was one
    of my usual electronics/electrical post..

    sorry =\
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