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Lawyers, patents, Monster cables

Discussion in 'Electronic Design' started by Martin Griffith, Apr 15, 2008.

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  1. Excellent letter, in fact.

    Actually, after reading it, I think that every honest man in the world
    should stop buying their products, if they ever did.

    Problem is, companies like Radio Shack, and small car audio
    sale/installation shops buy their stupid shit, so Monster still makes
    money.

    It really is sad the way that rat bastard company is the main cause that
    we all pay a lot more for cables now.

    Even the "discount" "cheap Chinese" versions are too goddamned much.

    I feel like giving Kurt my business based on that letter alone... well,
    his web page too.

    I rather miss behavior like his in America.
     
  2. Jitt

    Jitt Guest

  3. What do you think of this one?

    http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/04/10/ibm_chaos_patent/


    martin
     
  4. On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 07:50:30 -0700, in sci.electronics.design Jim
    http://appft1.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph...63".PGNR.&OS=DN/20080077463&RS=DN/20080077463
    and if that doesn't work try the link in the second paragraph


    martin
     
  5. http://www.google.com/search?q=Monster+cables+were+no+better+than+wire+coat+hangers


    martin
     
  6. James Beck

    James Beck Guest

    I'm sure, like most techs/engineers, I have enough RCA cables to wire
    the shuttle from end to end, but I needed an HDMI cable for a DVD player
    and surely didn't have one to spare. The only thing I could find off
    the shelf/locally was some $100+ gold plated piece of crap that somehow
    claimed it was going to improve my digital picture and sound. That's
    the shit I can't stand.

    Jim Beck
     
  7. RFI-EMI-GUY

    RFI-EMI-GUY Guest

    I found the same problem when I bought my LCD panel. I was able to buy
    an HDMI cable from the cable TV installer for a fraction of the price.
    But, still overpriced at $50. Then I needed a $25 right angle adapter
    because SONY decided to put the HDMI jack right where the wall mount
    kit would naturally interfere.

    --
    Joe Leikhim K4SAT
    "The RFI-EMI-GUY"©

    "Treason doth never prosper: what's the reason?
    For if it prosper, none dare call it treason."

    "Follow The Money" ;-P
     

  8. **** you, filter boy! You claimed to be filtering me, when all you
    really are doing is looking for posts to jab trolls at me with. So filter
    me, you retarded fuckhead.

    You are exactly the retarded fucktard I have been stating that you are.

    Your "litigation" remarks prove your stupidity even further.

    Leave me OUT of your retarded baby bullshit, you stupid ****!

    If I rode on you for the next two years, without a single reply from
    you, I still will not have caught up to the absolute horseshit you spew.
     

  9. Yeah... He is a Monster Retard... Just like you are.
     
  10. Or whatever? Is that like et al?

    It is real easy. Try small car audio installation shops.

    A lot of those like cheaper hardware sources as well.

    I get the parts and cables at work, and make my own, and they are very
    nearly the same as the Blue Jean Cable jobs... Belden wire, and good
    connectors.
     

  11. Sad, that fact... actually. I could fill a 12" square box, and that is
    with old, bad or good, El Cheapo cables like those that get supplied with
    devices at times. A 55 gallon drum though? Sheesh. You probably
    actually have a couple old, rusty barrels around the yard too, eh?

    Cardboard drums make for better storage.
     

  12. The cable is worth $29 max, and I even think that is high, and the
    adapter is, at most, a $12 item.

    You can blame Monster for the other vendors' greed though.
     
  13. RFI-EMI-GUY

    RFI-EMI-GUY Guest

    Its especially disturbing when you only need to run the cable 6 feet! I
    mean how good does a 6 ft HDMI cable need to be? If the cheapest cable
    can't go 6 ft there is something wrong with the HDMI spec.

    --
    Joe Leikhim K4SAT
    "The RFI-EMI-GUY"©

    "Treason doth never prosper: what's the reason?
    For if it prosper, none dare call it treason."

    "Follow The Money" ;-P
     
  14. krw

    krw Guest

    HDMI cables should be $10, tops. I paid about $6 last November. No
    way was I going to pay $70, or more, for a $3 cable. I hooked up
    the TV with component cables until UPS came.

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16882893002
     

  15. The Blue jean cable site has custom lengths. Not sure if the molded on
    connector, HDMI cables are in that mix.

    IIRC, he has different gauges available. Down to 22 ga.

    That has to be better than the 28 ga being claimed as 26 that is out
    there. :-]
     
  16. I think some of us are just typical "I don't like this damned inflation
    thing" people, because the connector prices alone would top $10, at the
    retail level.

    That, even if the maker gets them at $1.5 each for a million pieces,
    which some do, and some don't. They pay about $4.00 each for them in most
    cases.

    The whole world took advantage of us on this one, and that "get it
    while you can" attitude even trickled all the way down to the connector
    makers themselves.

    So you know that $10 is just too low for a shielded 6 conductor jumper
    with gold plated connectors on it, in this century. I an sure there are
    a few out there though...


    Well... whatayaknow...

    Stores are like yard sales. You look around until you find that one
    or two items that are worth it. The rest is where they make their money
    and count on customers that don't notice the prices or research their
    purchases.

    We'll never get custom or hand fabricated sets made at a price like
    that New Egg shit. I'll likely buy some of those though. That is a good
    buy if they don't screw you on shipping.
     
  17. Not likely as much as you might think for Wal Mart. Perhaps the maker
    gets a bigger than usual margin too, and perhaps there is a distribution
    house that even WalMart has to buy from... the ever-present middle-man
    (like as with us and our groceries).

    Either way, WE are the folks getting less for more. Hell, there isn't
    even a cheap Asian source at the flea markets like there is with tools
    and such. :-] I used to be able to find stuff at the flea markets. Now,
    it's all sunglasses, swords & knives, kids' collectibles... other odd
    junk. No really good stuff as often as in the past.

    We are getting the Asian product, but paying twice what would be the
    American price. These cables are NOT worth that much. Hell, we never
    paid that much for BNC fitted RGB cables back when that was the sate of
    the art, even in the labs. Even back when the dollar was worth a lot
    more. This crap is simple Mfg process, and even molded on ends, so we
    can't even service the friggin' things! If I pay that much for a cable,
    I would want solder cups so I could service my own purchases product upon
    any failure. Screw crimp on pins and sockets! :-]

    Otherwise, it should be dirt cheap, as was stated by
    KruddyRottenWeirdo.
    Yeah... If possible, one should always get a sample or two first to
    give it a look. Unfortunately, not all "Std." 10 Amp IEC line cords
    "settle" in at the same temperature when they are passing ten Amps. Sad
    that acceptance markings end up on products that do not comply... even
    with the most rudimentary safety requisite conformances.
    Yet another democracy on the verge of falling prey to the same
    corruptions that have haunted "democracies" throughout history.

    Why in the **** do Presidential elections need to or have a requisite
    for tens of millions of dollars or tens of tens. Lobbyism should be
    rendered archaic in an information rich society like that of our world.

    Enron was practically like Gabriel's Horn for those giving notice (or
    should be).
     
  18. krw

    krw Guest

    I am a consumer, yes Phyllis.
    Lying again, ehy Phyllis.
     
  19. krw

    krw Guest

    You keep telling the same lies, Phyllis.
     
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