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Discussion in 'Electronic Design' started by Rich Grise, Oct 18, 2006.

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  1. Rich Grise

    Rich Grise Guest

    The PHB got a new box, and wants to replace the server with it. This is
    what my other questions about Slack 11 and drivers and stuff were about.
    I finally got to the point where I can read the instructions on installing
    the LAN drivers, and I got a real kick out of step 4, Installation:

    "It is recommended to download the lastest version of the driver from the
    SysKonnect web site For details on Installation
    Instructions for sk98lin Driver, please refer to the README.txt file."

    Huh? How can I download the latest driver, when I don't have a LAN yet?

    (not to worry - I'll muddle through somehow - just thought that was cute,
    kinda like noticing Engrish - this is like noticing Ignoramian. ;-) )

  2. Allegedly some VCRs came with instructions - on tape!
  3. King Beowulf

    King Beowulf Guest

    On Wed, 18 Oct 2006 01:23:07 +0000, Rich Grise wrote:

    thats why I always have a trusty old 3com 3c905...wait..*blows dust* yep
    that's the one
  4. Rich,

    That's (still) very common. I remember my days at DEC where you needed an
    "All in one" account to ask for an "All in one" account. Not to mention the
    ISP helpdesks that say to look at their website while you're complaining to
    have no connection. Happened to me last week again.

    petrus bitbyter

  5. The local electric company, Progress Energy, has a TV commercial
    where they ask you to report your power outages on their website. Do I
    need to say any more? :(

    Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
    prove it.
    Member of DAV #85.

    Michael A. Terrell
    Central Florida
  6. PeteS

    PeteS Guest

    Just as all the telephone companies list a 1-800 number for you to
    report your telephone is not working ;)


  7. PeteS wrote :
    Or the good old error message from the BIOS:

    Keyboard Error or No Keyboard Present
    Press F1 to continue, DEL to enter setup
  8. PeteS

    PeteS Guest


    I'd forgotten that, but I do now remember it well (it was easy to get
    that message, as I recall).

    Thanks for the reminder of stupidity and what we dealt with ;)


  9. Jim Thompson

    Jim Thompson Guest

    I was just musing this morning about earthquakes. We don't have
    earthquakes here in hell... it'd put out the fires and Arizona would
    be cooler ;-)

    ...Jim Thompson

  10. I had an intermittent hum, or no dial tone with hum on my phone when
    I lived way out in the country. The phone company would use their
    computerized test system when I could finally call them, and tell me
    there was nothing wrong. Finally, I had a very weak dial tone, and the
    loudest hum so far and managed to get the service desk. The woman could
    barely hear me over the hum, yet she asked, What seems to be the nature
    of your problem? Can you speak up, I can't hear you for the hum!
    Finally they sent someone out. There was a mile of buried cable that
    was damaged from the pedestal to my house. The line card had several bad
    ports, the line back to the CO was leaking to ground, and the card for
    that pair was bad at the CO. All this, after two months of being told
    there were no problems. :(

    Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
    prove it.
    Member of DAV #85.

    Michael A. Terrell
    Central Florida

  11. Did you ever wonder why there are fuses for the keyboard port on PC
    motherboards? I had a keyboard cable catch on fire on one of the first
    XTs I sold, years ago. IBM had the power connector just inches from the
    keyboard connector, and tied directly to the +5 VDC rail. The AT boards
    had fuses. I wonder how many keyboard cables burnt, or motherboards
    died from a bad keyboard or cable?

    Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
    prove it.
    Member of DAV #85.

    Michael A. Terrell
    Central Florida
  12. JRS

    JRS Guest

    For 9 years I'd been complaining to the phone company about the
    noise on my line, and the loss of DSL signal. For 9 years they
    told me there was either no problem or the line was TNF (tecnically
    not feasible). I had a T1 installed finally and when testing
    for it, they found a fault 30-35 feet from the box on my house.
    Lo and behold, that is where the junction box was. They sent a
    crew out to dig up and repair said junction box. I arrived home
    in the middle of this and asked the quy what he found. He lifted
    on of the bundles of wires and showed me all the broken wires
    and insulation cracked and missing. Then he picked up the main
    splice (encased in gelled sealent) and squeezed. The water ran
    like squeezing a wash cloth in the shower. Yep, nothing wrong
    with those lines.

    Needless to say, my neighbors are much happier now that their
    phone lines work. :)
  13. Its amazing what they can find, when they want to. :)

    I know I've told this before, but when I was working as a broadcast
    engineer at a Christian TV station I had five WATS lines quit about 15
    minutes before the start of a 10 day Telethon. I call AT&T long lines
    and got a woman with a bad attitude. I explained the problem, and that
    we needed those lines fix, as soon as possible. She started screaming
    that every #$%^ call she got was an emergency, that it was Friday
    afternoon, and we should consider ourselves lucky if they were repaired
    by the following Friday because at least one of the ten lines was

    I pointed out the $1,000 deposit per line we had to pay up front, and
    their written guarantee of resolving problems in under 24 hours. She
    screamed, "I don't give a damn about your problem! I have real
    customers with bigger problems! What do you want me to do, pull someone
    off another job for you?" I sighed and told her, "I don't care what you
    do, but I would hate to have to start our telethon by telling our
    members that AT&T long lines refuses to honor their contract because we
    are a Christian TV station. A lot of local business owners are
    members." Boy, did her attitude change! She whispered, You wouldn't do
    that to us, would you? I said, "I'd hate to have to." and hung up.

    The first truck rolled in seven minutes later. Trucks kept rolling
    in, including the district field supervisor. They found a bad line card
    in the equipment room for the complex, and all five numbers were on that

    It was working before the telethon started. All the telephone guys
    were laughing like crazy, and told me the woman was afraid they would
    fire her, and everyone else in her department if they didn't keep us
    happy. The supervisor told me, "They don't understand what the word
    emergency means. Thanks for lighting a fire under them!" ;-)

    Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
    prove it.
    Member of DAV #85.

    Michael A. Terrell
    Central Florida
  14. Jim Thompson

    Jim Thompson Guest

    At the old house I went for two years like that. Then they sent a
    tech out who, by happenstance, had worked for me at Dickson
    Electronics. I showed him my measurements and he found the _flooded_
    underground vault within two hours.

    ...Jim Thompson
  15. Jim Thompson wrote :
    My signature comes from a time when I was working in a factory producing
    high-end loudspeakers. One of the sub-woofers had a amplifier with this
    warning printed at the outside and I felt it somehow described Usenet so
    I made it my signature.
  16. Michael A. Terrell wrote :
    Is that why IBM changed the protocol so that I couldn't use my wonderful
    ½ton XT keyboard when I bought a 486?
  17. Yeah, they rely way too much on automated test equipment nowadays...

    Back when I worked in the CO, the call would come in, and I would put
    the test setup on the cable pair, and could usually tell whether the
    problem was in the main cable, feeder, or drop just from the meter
    readings! Of course, it didn't hurt that I could then talk to the line
    guys (who had their breaks down in our break room!) what was going on,
    and have the line fixed within the hour...

    Amazing what you can read with a voltmeter and a 50V source of battery!

  18. Jim Thompson

    Jim Thompson Guest

    I _knew_ it had to be water... anytime it rained my "line lights"
    would start to glimmer. And I could measure the drop with my DVM.

    But they didn't do squat until the tech I knew showed up.

    ...Jim Thompson

  19. No, they had already used up their stock of obsolete word processing
    keyboards, and moved onto other in-house surplus. ;-)

    Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
    prove it.
    Member of DAV #85.

    Michael A. Terrell
    Central Florida
  20. Michael A. Terrell wrote :
    IIRC the ole heavyweight keyboard is still somewhere in the basement and
    I just found out that the Linux 2.6.* kernel comes with a XT keyboard
    driver. So maybe there's still hope, all I need to find a way to connect
    the keyboard to the parallel port.
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