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  1. zooz

    zooz Guest

    hi

    my project advisor asked for a monitoring system for the solar system
    i'm supposed to set up. he had suggested LABVIEW.
    can anyone please help with who to connect the LABVIEW module, and if
    there are alternative monitoring methods

    thank you
     
  2. Bruce Varley

    Bruce Varley Guest

    Well, it's kind of him not to require it for the galaxy or the whole
    universe.
     
  3. no_one

    no_one Guest

    http://www.ni.com/virtualinstrumentation/
     
  4. Frank Buss

    Frank Buss Guest

    What do you want to monitor from the solar system? Do you want to monitor
    the movements of the planets or moons included? Do you have already an
    observatory to connect to LABVIEW?
     
  5. SBS

    SBS Guest

    Frank Buss () ha scritto:

    :: zooz wrote:
    ::
    ::: my project advisor asked for a monitoring system for the solar system
    ::: i'm supposed to set up. he had suggested LABVIEW.
    ::: can anyone please help with who to connect the LABVIEW module,
    ::: and if there are alternative monitoring methods
    ::
    :: What do you want to monitor from the solar system? Do you want to monitor
    :: the movements of the planets or moons included? Do you have already an
    :: observatory to connect to LABVIEW?

    You are joking, aren't you? :)
     
  6. Hot Jock

    Hot Jock Guest

    Another gmail dickhead.

    Oooops, forgot that I'm one too.
     
  7. I think National Instruments is working on an astrology plug-in for
    Labview, but it hasn't been released yet. With it, one can not only
    track the movement of heavenly objects, but also predict the results
    of lab experiments and test results. That saves considerable time in
    not having to do the actual experiments and tests.
     
  8. New employee. Boss gives them something to do to keep them out of
    everyone's hair.

    Its like asking the new guy to fetch 100 yards of flight line. Or a
    bucket of prop wash.
     
  9. Jim Thompson

    Jim Thompson Guest

    Sky hook ?:)

    ...Jim Thompson
     
  10. Do you mean "solar power system"?
     
  11. Hot Jock

    Hot Jock Guest

    Hey, now your making it too easy for the OP, giving him clues like
    that. Tut, tut.
     
  12. Gallon of pneumatic fluid.
    Left handed Crescent wrench.
    In surveying, fetch the trogolite. (Actually theodolite)

    In my younger daze, I was a bit more creative. I convinced a clueless
    foreign exchange student that he needed to grease his sheet metal
    thoroughly before spot welding the pieces together. That was fun.
     
  13. You're lucky nobody asked for a troglodyte, or the new guy would have
    come back dragging Thompson.

    (Ducking and running) ;-)
     
  14. JosephKK

    JosephKK Guest

    Jim Thompson posted to
    sci.electronics.design:
    A bucket of steam.
     
  15. Robbo

    Robbo Guest

    Take care around Uranus. Be certain to fully discharge first.
     
  16. Jim Thompson

    Jim Thompson Guest

    _Really_ bad ;-)

    BTW: Is Plantronics still in Santa Cruz? MANY years ago I designed a
    couple of (telephone) line-powered head-set chips for them.

    ...Jim Thompson
     
  17. I gotta learn to use a speling chequer. Troglodyte. The reason I
    (almost) remember the trick is that I was the victim of that joke. I
    was working with a survey crew on a summer job while in college. I
    was asked to fetch the troglodyte and to ask someone if I couldn't
    find it. It took a while to understand why everyone was laughing at
    me.
    Ah, but it was sooooo much fun. When the grease exploded, I was on my
    way out the door. It painted a nice thin black horizontal line across
    his white shirt from elbow to elbow.

    However, I had a bigger problem. I had successfully insulted one of
    his associates. His "assistant" was really a body guard and was
    openly trying to kill me. I made a point of disappearing for a few
    days, while my friends explained to those involved that in the USA,
    one does not murder people for minor insults. My stunt with the
    grease explosion did not help.

    Lesson: International customs and practices vary.
    Plantronics management and engineering is still in Santa Cruz.
    However, most of the manufacturing is in Mexico as Plamex. Lots of
    stuff also seems to be coming from China. I know nothing about these
    offshore operations.

    At one point, I wanted to work for them as an engineer. An interview
    was arranged where the manager asked me to analyze and comment on the
    design of the then popular Plantronics PhoneBeam IR cordless speaker
    phone. After a quick glance at the schematic and internal
    construction, I tore it apart as an example of overkill, complexity,
    and exessive component count. I was about to tear into the mechanical
    design and offer alternatives, when I was asked to stop due to alleged
    lack of time. I later was informed that my interviewer had designed
    the PhoneBeam electronics and generally failed to appreciate any form
    of criticism. So much for my career at Plantronics.

    Lesson: Diplomacy is more important than objectivity.

    Incidentally, we also have Raytek locally, which is now owned by
    Fluke:
    <http://www.raytek.com>
     
  18. Joel Koltner

    Joel Koltner Guest

    What a tool... anyone who'd ask someone else for constructive criticism on
    their design when in acutality they're just looking for kudos on how great it
    is shouldn't be doing technical interviews in the first place.
    Depends on the company...
     
  19. I beg to differ. The interviewer wasn't looking for approval. He had
    a design that he was intimately familiar with. He probably knew all
    the problems that it had in production. It's highly likely that most
    of my criticism were already known or at least had been suggested by
    others. He could easily tell if I was taking a systems approach to
    the design, or whether I was taking pot shots at parts and pieces that
    didn't follow my favorite methodology. Were the circumstances
    reversed, I probably would have done something similar. (Actually, I
    have done something similar when hiring techs, but was told to cease
    by the personnel dept. See below).

    Friends working for Plantronics at the time eventually leaked that the
    interviewer was not very happy with me after the interview. Apparently
    (my guess) I had hit upon too many of the low points of his design for
    him to be comfortable having me around. The emperors new clothes were
    not invisible, but they certainly had some big holes.

    When I still was in the job market, I interviewed with a few assorted
    companies. The ones with smaller engineering departments were a
    disaster. My problems interviewing at Plantronics were about the
    worst. However, I had plenty of other problems dealing with managers
    and other engineers. The managers tended to look for how well I would
    "get along" with the rest of his team. The engineers tended to hand
    me their problem of the day to solve. One interviewer spent the
    entire interview negotiating where I would fit into his wall size
    organizational chart. If there were any real competence tests, they
    were well hidden.

    As usual, I prefer to be part of the problem instead of the solution.
    I was in the position of having to hire engineering techs for perhaps
    8 years. After some bad decisions, I decided that I would study the
    matter and improve my interrogation skills. Lacking the time to take
    the necessary courses, I resorted to trickery.

    The prospective tech would be shown one of our current RF boards and
    asked to identify as many components as possible. This was presented
    as a test of experience. Afterwards, I would give the tech a tour of
    the circuit board, explain the functions involved, detail some of the
    components, and reference the associated schematic.

    Then, I would give them a tour of the plant and facilities or perhaps
    go to lunch. Afterwards, we would end up back at my messy office,
    where I would drag out the same identical board, and ask the same
    identical question. If they had been paying attention when I gave
    them a tour of the board, and absorbed even some of my technobabble,
    they were a likely candidate. If they could do no better than the
    initial analysis, they were history.
    True. I didn't do well at large companies. Probably my lack of
    diplomacy, tact, humility, etc.
     
  20. Joel Koltner

    Joel Koltner Guest

    Hi Jeff,

    Hmm... ok, so someone who doesn't want people around who are more adept than
    they are shouldn't be doing technical interviews then?

    Ironically good businessmen are specifically looking to hire people with
    skills they don't possess or aren't particularly good at... but of course many
    an engineer isn't a good businessman...
    This is always a problem in some companies -- "getting along" is more
    important than "being technically correct." Granted, there are better ways
    and worse ways to go about rocking the boat, but many just can't take
    constructive criticism regardless of how it's presented.
    Definitely sounds like a good test for whether or not they're interested in
    the particular job and not just any old random one to pass the hours between 9
    and 5.

    ---Joel
     
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