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Labeling Wire with the Brothers PT-1400 TZ Labeler

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  1. W. Watson

    W. Watson Guest

    I was just in our local electrical store searching for outlet boxes and the
    like. I noticed an interesting (Dymo) label machine for sale at the front
    desk. Didn't ask the price, but it looked expensive, especially in the
    electrical specialty store. Afterwards, I went to Staples and found a
    Brothers labeler for $100 with a $50 rebate that looked quite similar.
    <http://www.imagesupply.com/productc...89&OVRAW=pt-1400&OVKEY=pt 1400&OVMTC=standard>
    My interest is mostly in labeling computer cables. I've used colored
    electrical tape at times, but a ring-link wrap of tape starts to come apart
    fairly quickly. The unit has various widths and a heavy duty (TZ) adhesive
    tape. Has anyone had experience with these devices.

    Wayne T. Watson (Watson Adventures, Prop., Nevada City, CA)
    (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time)
    Obz Site: 39° 15' 7" N, 121° 2' 32" W, 2700 feet

    'I think it not improbable that man, like the grub that
    prepares a chamber for the winged thing it has never seen but
    is to be, may have... destinies that he does not understand."
    -- Oliver Wendell Holmes

    Wayne T. Watson (Watson Adventures, Prop., Nevada City, CA)
    (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time)
    Obz Site: 39° 15' 7" N, 121° 2' 32" W, 2700 feet

    'I think it not improbable that man, like the grub that
    prepares a chamber for the winged thing it has never seen but
    is to be, may have... destinies that he does not understand."
    -- Oliver Wendell Holmes
     
  2. Mike Berger

    Mike Berger Guest

    I've used a P-Touch labeler for years -- I like it a lot better
    than the Brady Wire Marker I have that was intended for the purpose.

    I apply the labels along the wire, then cover them with transparent
    packing tape. Or I apply the label like a flag and stick it over to
    itself. Both of these methods work well, and are a lot cheaper and
    more flexible than the Brady device.
     
  3. Hi!
    Yes. I have used one of the Brother P-Touch models for labeling many
    different things, including computer cables. It works pretty well, although
    heat beyond that of "normal" or even "high" room temperature seems to cause
    problems with the adhesive backing.

    William
     
  4. W. Watson

    W. Watson Guest

    That may not be so good for me then. I have a fair amount of my computer
    eqpt in a small building that can get very warm in our summers, and it has
    no air conditionin.


    Wayne T. Watson (Watson Adventures, Prop., Nevada City, CA)
    (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time)
    Obz Site: 39° 15' 7" N, 121° 2' 32" W, 2700 feet

    'I think it not improbable that man, like the grub that
    prepares a chamber for the winged thing it has never seen but
    is to be, may have... destinies that he does not understand."
    -- Oliver Wendell Holmes
     
  5. Mike Berger

    Mike Berger Guest

    The Brady labels don't do all that well under those conditions
    either. Overwrap the label with tape and it won't come off.
     
  6. W. Watson

    W. Watson Guest

    The best choice would be 3M transparent scotch tape? I think I estimated the
    cost of a label would be about 10 center/inch. Is that about right?


    Wayne T. Watson (Watson Adventures, Prop., Nevada City, CA)
    (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time)
    Obz Site: 39° 15' 7" N, 121° 2' 32" W, 2700 feet

    'I think it not improbable that man, like the grub that
    prepares a chamber for the winged thing it has never seen but
    is to be, may have... destinies that he does not understand."
    -- Oliver Wendell Holmes
     
  7. Ross Herbert

    Ross Herbert Guest

    If you are making up your own cables the best solution is to apply the
    label lengthwise and use thinwall clear heatshrink tubing to protect
    it. Of course, for cables already terminated that isn't an option.

    http://www.qualtekusa.com/catalog/Tubing/PRODUCT-PDF/Q1.pdf or similar
     
  8. Hi!
    The good news is that while the adhesive has gotten soft, I haven't actually
    had a P-Touch label fall off of any wire or cable yet. The most severe
    problem has been labels that become loose and slide down the cable slightly.
    I think you might be able to use them without problem, even in an area
    without air conditioning. Some of mine are in use on the inside and outside
    of a cable TV junction box on the side of my house.

    William
     
  9. When I got one of those labellers at a garage sale, I guess it was May
    of 2005, out of curiosity I made up a label (the first tape doesn't
    last long, you want to play with it, then you learn the tapes can
    be expensive) and put it on a lawn chair. It sits out in the sun and
    rain all spring through fall (but comes in during the winter) and
    after two summers the label is still there and I can't say I've noticed
    fading. It's not a conclusive test, but the labels do seem to stand
    up.

    Michael
     
  10. W. Watson

    W. Watson Guest

    I'm not familiar with it. Do I need something like a hair dryer to shrink it?


    Wayne T. Watson (Watson Adventures, Prop., Nevada City, CA)
    (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time)
    Obz Site: 39° 15' 7" N, 121° 2' 32" W, 2700 feet

    'I think it not improbable that man, like the grub that
    prepares a chamber for the winged thing it has never seen but
    is to be, may have... destinies that he does not understand."
    -- Oliver Wendell Holmes
     
  11. W. Watson

    W. Watson Guest

    That's encouraging.


    Wayne T. Watson (Watson Adventures, Prop., Nevada City, CA)
    (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time)
    Obz Site: 39° 15' 7" N, 121° 2' 32" W, 2700 feet

    'I think it not improbable that man, like the grub that
    prepares a chamber for the winged thing it has never seen but
    is to be, may have... destinies that he does not understand."
    -- Oliver Wendell Holmes
     
  12. W. Watson

    W. Watson Guest

    I thinking I'm moving towards a buy on this.

    All this brings up a related question, which I might address in a separate
    post. I have 15-20 PC cables not in use, and sometimes they are not easily
    identifible. Is there some procedure for identifying them? I never "quite"
    understood why the mfgers didn't put some code on them. $$$


    Wayne T. Watson (Watson Adventures, Prop., Nevada City, CA)
    (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time)
    Obz Site: 39° 15' 7" N, 121° 2' 32" W, 2700 feet

    'I think it not improbable that man, like the grub that
    prepares a chamber for the winged thing it has never seen but
    is to be, may have... destinies that he does not understand."
    -- Oliver Wendell Holmes
     
  13. Ross Herbert

    Ross Herbert Guest

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