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  1. Killer laser:


    Legal? I think not.
     
  2. Uncle Al

    Uncle Al Guest

    Invert the phase 180 degrees and it is resurrection laser. Legal? I
    think not.
     
  3. Bob Myers

    Bob Myers Guest

    Why not? It would certainly be illegal to SELL such a
    product without the appropriate warning stickers,
    certifications, and such, but making one of your own
    from readily-available components? How is that
    illegal? Doesn't even look like all THAT powerful
    a laser.

    I know how to make any number of pretty damn
    dangerous gadgets from items available for purchase
    in any decent hardware store...but would it be
    illegal for me to do so, in general? (Ignoring, for
    the purposes of this question, the creation of certain
    controlled materials such as explosives.)

    Bob M.
     
  4. Benj

    Benj Guest

    Are you kidding? You obviously are not familiar with life in the NEW
    America!
    Hey, just POSSESSION of dangerous "terrorist" items is a crime. It's
    a felony to build a model rocket that is too large or possess too much
    model rocket fuel.
    See? This is what we are talking about! People can go right on the
    internet and get information on building terrorist devices. This is
    why the internet needs to be strictly censored and knowledgeable
    people like you put in jail. I don't care if you've posted no
    information so far. The fact that you know how to make "damn dangerous
    gadgets" makes you a threat. In today's America we don't need a CRIME
    to lock someone up. A "threat" is enough to do it!

    If you think life is nuts now...just wait!
     
  5. Androcles

    Androcles Guest

    [snip wet fart]
    3) GPS receivers do not have atomic clocks.
    4) Fuckhead.
     
  6. Your physics needs some work ;-)
     
  7. Androcles

    Androcles Guest

    :
    : : > Killer laser:
    : >
    : >
    : > Legal? I think not.
    :
    : Why not? It would certainly be illegal to SELL such a
    : product without the appropriate warning stickers,
    : certifications, and such, but making one of your own
    : from readily-available components? How is that
    : illegal? Doesn't even look like all THAT powerful
    : a laser.

    : I know how to make any number of pretty damn
    : dangerous gadgets from items available for purchase
    : in any decent hardware store...but would it be
    : illegal for me to do so, in general? (Ignoring, for
    : the purposes of this question, the creation of certain
    : controlled materials such as explosives.)
    :
    : Bob M.
    :
    I'm with you. It is illegal to drive on the right in my country.
    Certainly anything is legal in most countries unless there is
    a specific law against it.
    Is a book of matches a controlled material?
    It is after all an incendiary device. So is a cell phone...
     
  8. Radiosrfun

    Radiosrfun Guest

    Ben is right. First off - any "idiot" can go online to learn how to make
    bombs of most if not all types. The information is all out there with it's
    disclaimer of they're not responsible for actions as a result of that
    information being made public.

    Yes, you can make them from most anything easily available - what you use
    depends on how big a bang you want for your buck. One of the fields I am
    involved in, I have taken classes dealing with bombs and response to them as
    well as Terroristic Incidents and "many" others. I am "not" an expert - nor
    will I claim to be - but I do know the stuff is out there. We have
    presently - a few miles from my location - someone using homemade devices to
    explode mail boxes. Though "I" am not an expert, I do have access to a wide
    array of those who are - at a moments notice.

    There was a nearby college student not many months ago - arrested for having
    "bomb making materials" in his possession. He was arrested and charged
    accordingly.

    The Feds, State and Local authorities are NOT taking those things lightly -
    with the on going threat as it exists - of terrorism.
    Get caught - you may lose your freedom for a LONG time. All you need is to
    run your mouth once - and/or a concerned neighbor or someone maybe even a
    "Store clerk" - report you for being suspicious - and it will be all over.
    Clerks are asked to report anyone buying large quantities of materials known
    to be used or the "combinations".

    I agree with Ben, life is nuts now - but not nearly as it may be. It's a
    shame, but with all the ass holes out there - we have to take steps to
    protect our people. When you have "American" kids / adults - acting in
    behalf of the Islamists and all the other radical groups out there - you
    can't take chances.

    L.
     
  9. Guest

    The main problem I have with this laser in a flashlight is
    that it has no safety, a kid can find it, switch it on, look into it,
    and / or burn anyone else's eyes out.
    The max power is 1mW here for laserpointers IIRC (EU).

    As a terrorist weapon ? No, better get some Pu.
     
  10. "Illegal"? Who's business is it? In the US, the FDA might care if I
    wanted to sell or advertise them, but otherwise?

    Best regards,
    Spehro Pefhany
     
  11. Benj

    Benj Guest

    Um. Sorry to clue you in Radiosrfun, but my mini rant wasn't
    advocating the giving up of freedom for the PROMISE of security. As
    Ben Franklin said, those willing to do that deserve neither! I was
    simply making a point of the encroaching police state being fueled by
    politicians lusting for power and people like you.

    As for Androcles and the matchbook. Let me ask why do you think that
    all the laws you are supposed to obey take up LIBRARIES of space. Do
    you think for a minute that ANYONE could go through life never
    violating at least ONE of them? EVERYONE HAS TO BE GUILTY! That way
    each crime is determined by those in power rather than the rule of
    law. Today our elected "representatives" don't even READ the crap
    they pass. Our original system of government has been so subverted
    that soon you'll be BEGGING for a king to act as God's representative
    on Earth to sort it all out for us!

    If you are willing to overthrow our traditions and American ideals
    simply because of some difficult times in the world, then I can ASSURE
    you that there are some politicians willing to CREATE those difficult
    times so you will hand over your traditions. If this America, These
    United States are meant to fall, then I say at least let them be
    buried in holy ground!

    So be it!
     
  12. A book of matches and a burning cigarette can make a dandy time-delay
    fuze. ;-)

    Cheers!
    Rich
     
  13. Radiosrfun

    Radiosrfun Guest

    NOPE - not cluing me in. Was agreeing with where "you" were coming from -
    but adding more to it as to how things are "treated". I don't like seeing
    the liberties disappearing anymore than the next guy - but I do understand
    why. As someone pointed out - a "lit cigarette" can be used as a delay
    fuse - it is all in how you look at it. You can go silly with it or look at
    it sensibly. Like the "Anthrax" scare - some old grannies here in town
    thought someone placed some on their porch. Now come on - we all know -
    those little old ladies weren't a target. SOME just take it to the extremes.
    I DO understand what you're saying.
     
  14. Androcles

    Androcles Guest

    : On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 18:18:21 +0000, Androcles wrote:
    : > : : > : > Killer laser:
    : > : >
    : > : >
    : > : > Legal? I think not.
    : > :
    : > : Why not? It would certainly be illegal to SELL such a
    : > : product without the appropriate warning stickers,
    : > : certifications, and such, but making one of your own
    : > : from readily-available components? How is that
    : > : illegal? Doesn't even look like all THAT powerful
    : > : a laser.
    : >
    : > : I know how to make any number of pretty damn
    : > : dangerous gadgets from items available for purchase
    : > : in any decent hardware store...but would it be
    : > : illegal for me to do so, in general? (Ignoring, for
    : > : the purposes of this question, the creation of certain
    : > : controlled materials such as explosives.)
    : > :
    : > I'm with you. It is illegal to drive on the right in my country.
    : > Certainly anything is legal in most countries unless there is
    : > a specific law against it.
    : > Is a book of matches a controlled material?
    : > It is after all an incendiary device. So is a cell phone...
    :
    : A book of matches and a burning cigarette can make a dandy time-delay
    : fuze. ;-)
    :
    : Cheers!
    : Rich
    Yep, but a cell phone with a broken incandescent light bulb and a
    match head resting against the filament is better, you only need
    call its number to control when it goes off. It's no secret, Al Qaeda
    used that for the Spanish train bombings
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/3597885.stm
     
  15. Guest

    Yep, but what middle school student with an IQ of greater than 80
    doesn't know this?

    In point of fact, those middle school students whose hope is to go on
    to a first rate college would laugh at you with your matcheads and
    filaments. Most would realize that you couldn't set off a high order
    detonation with a filament and matchead. Most of these kids would have
    the brains to call Uncle Steve, who works in the mines somewhere in
    West Virginia or Pensylvania and have him send them a half-diozen #6
    electric blasting caps to play with, and yes, they are capable of
    initiating a high order deteronation.

    I't ain't rocket science!

    Another uncle, a guy that lets say is Ralph, swipes fom the mine and
    send then 6 stick of Dupont Extra Dynamite, and he ships them by
    parcel post.

    Back in the late 1950s, while in college I actually witness this
    taking place, and guess what, the explosives where harmlessly
    detonated for education and recreatinoal purposes.

    If you believe that the same thing does not go on today, then you are
    very naive. The governmnet has absolutely no infuence on this flow of
    explosive materials....and I would say that this continues without any
    downside. Heck, the Pennylvania and West Virginia Coal Miners
    would...I really don't want to say what they would do to demonstated
    terrorists, so in my mind they are defenders of our national security.

    Still, they regard explosives as simply teaching materials, but
    realize that if a terrorist were to get their hands on such material,
    people they love could be hurt or killed. Lemme tell you: If I were a
    terroist and a thereat to the US, I'd really hope that the government
    captured me first, because if these simple patriots laid hands on me,
    only DNA would identify my body parts distutributed over 6 states, or
    under a boulder dropped into a mine shaft than can never be moved.

    Realize that many of these guys are more sopisticated than you might
    at first imagine.

    Harry C.
     

  16. A couple salesmen at another office of a company I worked for thought
    it would be funny to fill an envelope with talcum powder and drop it
    near one of the secretary's desks. They were both fired, and ended up
    in jail. Real funny.


    --
    Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
    prove it.
    Member of DAV #85.

    Michael A. Terrell
    Central Florida
     
  17. amdx

    amdx Guest

    Anybody know what the output power of a DVD burner diode is?
    Mike
     
  18. Meat Plow

    Meat Plow Guest

    Not enough to light a candle and I don't think it's visible either.
     
  19. Rich Grise

    Rich Grise Guest

    "Illegal"? Who's business is it? In the US, the FDA might care if I
    wanted to sell or advertise them, but otherwise?
    [/QUOTE]

    All these people are apparently in a lot of trouble:
    http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q="laser+cutter"

    ;-)
    Rich
     
  20. Rich Grise

    Rich Grise Guest

    How would you ever move a mine shaft anyway? ;-)

    Cheers!
    Rich
     
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