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  1. Arfa Daily

    Arfa Daily Guest

    Genus Type R portable DAB radio. Nice elegant looking unit. Nice simple (I
    think) problem, but how the F#@! does it come to bits ????

    35 years daily experience of finding hidden screws and clips and twisty
    pressure points, but nearly an hour of probing and testing cracks and gaps
    with knife blades, I'm still no nearer.

    So does anyone actually know ? Not really looking for suggestions, as I've
    probably tried them all anyway. Just if anyone knows for sure the trick of
    it, please share ... !!

  2. Charles

    Charles Guest

    Maybe the "trick" of it is an assembly method that saved money with no
    intention of anyone ever repairing it. Have seen that myself, BTW.
  3. Arfa Daily

    Arfa Daily Guest

    Yes, I too have seen that, but in this case, it seems rather too 'good' an
    item, and generally too well made for that to be the case. I understand that
    it is quite an expensive 'designer-lifestyle' radio. Looks like the sort of
    thing you would find for sale in a John Lewis store. Take a look at it
    here ---

    I don't know where it is actually made, but it has, moulded into the back,
    "Designed in London" and a Union flag. It is a very 'solid' unit with
    genuine walnut side panels, and a very elegant touch control system on the
    top panel. The only visible screws are four in the bottom, which release a
    metal plate which covers a totally empty (other than a fixed multiway
    connector) metal compartment for a specialist sized rechargeable battery
    (not fitted) and two screws which secure the carrying handle to damped
    rotating bosses set in the wooden side panels. There is no indication that
    these bosses are any kind of removable screw or other fixing, as you used to
    find with the old Hackers. They appear to be solidly fixed into the wooden
    side panels.

    There is a sculpted foam front speaker cover, which occupies the whole
    front, but an experiment with a knife blade inserted under one corner, in
    case ir clipped or velcro'd off, resulted only in that 'tearing glue' sound
    that you get when something really is glued. The back panel is covered with
    a glued on leatherette type plastic. Running a finger over its entire
    surface, reveals not the slightest sign of there being anything other than a
    flat metal plate under it.

    A knife inserted in every crack and slid back and forth, reveals no obvious
    clips. Twisting produces no perceivable movement to reveal unseen anchor
    points. I'm stumped !

  4. N_Cook

    N_Cook Guest

    I've seen similar in that you have to remove the handle to release the
    innards, I forget the make for the moment
  5. Charles

    Charles Guest

  6. N_Cook

    N_Cook Guest

    maybe this one off my repair briefs

    Roberts R727 radio 1989
    Undo base and push down the handle to release
    and expose 2 bolts

    does that make any sense?
  7. me

    me Guest

    I'd second this, have you tried removing the handle?
  8. Archon

    Archon Guest

    If it was a piece of test gear, I would guess you would remove the
    handle and slide off the side panels to reveal the screws holding the
    rest of it together.
  9. Lee

    Lee Guest

    Arfa..... years ago I saw a very similar looking radio by Braun. I
    noticed that the pins in the handle rotated with the handle.
    Pulled out on the handle at the pivot point.
    Afer handle off, the guts slid out of the frame.

  10. Archon

    Archon Guest

    Its on Youtube.......nice
  11. Arfa Daily

    Arfa Daily Guest

    Yes, as I previously said ... :) And yes, I'm familiar with the practice
    of securing the innards via handle fixing screws, but as I explained
    earlier, the handle fixings are damped rotating bosses, to which the handle
    is screwed. These bosses appear to be a tight press fit or some such in the
    wooden side panels. There is no visible method of releasing them, and the
    very small amount of the outer non-rotating part which is proud of the wood
    surface, is completely smooth.

  12. Arfa Daily

    Arfa Daily Guest

    Yes. I too found this. Shame it doesn't show you how to get it to bits ...

  13. Arfa Daily

    Arfa Daily Guest

    Yes Lee. I too have seen all manner of similar arrangements. Unfortunately,
    that doesn't seem to be the trick to this one. I really honestly have tried
    everything that many many years of service work at the sharp end has taught
    me about getting into stuff, but this one is a total mystery. I even took it
    back to the shop that took in the repair, today, and let their two lads have
    a go, but neither of them could get into it either. I'm sure if we ever find
    out, it will be something really simple, but for the moment, simple or not,
    it's all a bit Penn and Teller ... >:-\

  14. N_Cook

    N_Cook Guest

    Warming up and removing label with hot air ?
    Thin steel blade, slid in any crack, to release internal catches like a lot
    of computer stuff ?
    After that its find a weak point/edge that can later be disguised. The only
    time I did that, for some effects unit, I had told the owner beforehand and
    he supplied me with a "Keep music live" sticker to go over the damage.
  15. I suspect Arfa's assumption that this unit was designed to snap together is

    Is there a local dentist who'd be willing to take a few X-rays along the
    edges? (A shame shoe stores no longer have X-ray machines!)

    One other possibility... Is it possible the back is to be pushed inward and
    pulled down?
  16. F Murtz

    F Murtz Guest

    Chain saw then you know next time
  17. George Vest

    George Vest Guest

    Try this method......

  18. Arfa Daily

    Arfa Daily Guest

    LOL !!

  19. Arfa Daily

    Arfa Daily Guest

    Yep ! That'd work. Perhaps I should refer the owner to that clip, and ask
    him if it's ok to proceed in that manner ... d;~}

  20. Lee

    Lee Guest

    Arfa..... have you sent an email to the manufacturer?

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