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martin griffith

Jan 1, 1970
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John Larkin

Jan 1, 1970
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OK, so it's Friday night, I'm sitting here reading jokes; I've already
posted the base URL of this "Infrequently Asked Questions," But this one
is just too good to wait until somebody stumbles on it:
http://ifaq.wap.org/science/engineersexplained.html

Are _you_ an Engineer?

Cheers!
Rich


As someone said, women have absolutely no use for engineeers except to
marry them.

John
 
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Rich Grise

Jan 1, 1970
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I've read this before and I'm pretty sure it was in one of Scott Adams'
books.

If you're in a room with two terminals, and Scott Adams is at the other
end of one and Dave Barry is at the other end of the other one, would you
be able to tell the difference? ;-)

Cheers!
Rich
 
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Rich Grise

Jan 1, 1970
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I read in sci.electronics.design that martin griffith


I like no. 5. Senna pods, anyone? (;-)

I don't know. What's a "Senna pod"?

Thanks,
Rich
 
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John Woodgate

Jan 1, 1970
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I read in sci.electronics.design that Rich Grise <[email protected]>
wrote (in said:
I don't know. What's a "Senna pod"?
An alien remedy probably found in the Enterprise medical stores. (;-)

Google knows what they are.
 
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Tim Wescott

Jan 1, 1970
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Rich said:
I've never driven a Corvair, but from what I've heard, the only real
problem with them was when they crash. I've never ever based a car
purchase on what happens when I crash it. :)

http://richgrise.tripod.com/images/Safe-Car.gif

Thanks!
Rich
The problem with the Corvair was that when you went around a corner too
fast it crashed.

Let's try that again: when you went around a corner _too fast_ it
crashed. The only special part is that when it let go it did so
suddenly, and it went into the tulle brush backwards, not forwards (i.e.
"oversteer"). American cars at the time started making noises and
refusing to steer at about 2/3 the speed that a Corvair would crash, and
went into the tulle brush forwards (i.e. "understeer").

But it did make Nader's career for him.
 
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Ken Smith

Jan 1, 1970
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Let's try that again: when you went around a corner _too fast_ it
crashed. The only special part is that when it let go it did so
suddenly, and it went into the tulle brush backwards, not forwards (i.e.
"oversteer"). American cars at the time started making noises and
refusing to steer at about 2/3 the speed that a Corvair would crash, and
went into the tulle brush forwards (i.e. "understeer").

But it did make Nader's career for him.

Actually, I think Nader tested a very early Corvair (1st year). In the
early ones, the rear end skid caused something funny to happen in the rear
end geometery making it near imposible to recover from the skid. I think
later ones could be taken in and out of skids by expert drivers.

American cars of that same era would over steer or under steer depending
on whether your foot was on the gas or the brake. Driven correctly the
Corvair would corner faster than the other American cars. Driven
incorrectly they could get into trouble faster.

Today's cars tend to all understeer badly. They are designed with the
idea that the driver is an idiot and can't be trusted to do the right
thing. It is better to hit an object with the front of a modern car than
than the side.

SUVs on the other hand often have a funny sort of oversteer. The roof is
sliprier at the back and the running lights near the front tend to dig in.
 
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Jim Thompson

Jan 1, 1970
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[snip]
Actually, I think Nader tested a very early Corvair (1st year). In the
early ones, the rear end skid caused something funny to happen in the rear
end geometery making it near imposible to recover from the skid. I think
later ones could be taken in and out of skids by expert drivers.
[snip]

The first version had true swing axles with no travel limit, so you
could get into some interesting situations when sliding the rear end
sideways or in a high hop.

My '61 Renault Dauphine had leather straps to limit the travel.

...Jim Thompson
 
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Dbowey

Jan 1, 1970
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kensmith posted:

Let's try that again: when you went around a corner _too fast_ it
crashed. The only special part is that when it let go it did so
suddenly, and it went into the tulle brush backwards, not forwards (i.e.
"oversteer"). American cars at the time started making noises and
refusing to steer at about 2/3 the speed that a Corvair would crash, and
went into the tulle brush forwards (i.e. "understeer").

But it did make Nader's career for him.

Actually, I think Nader tested a very early Corvair (1st year). In the
early ones, the rear end skid caused something funny to happen in the rear
end geometery making it near imposible to recover from the skid. I think
later ones could be taken in and out of skids by expert drivers. >>

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In 1973 my older son bought a like-new Corvair; a great looking car. He and
some friends were returning home on a road alongside a river, when one of the
tires fell into a pothole, which pitched the car into the river. Everyone was
ok with only minor bumps. The driver of the car following them said the car
bounced up and the rear wheel both tucked under - there was no axle restraint
to prevent this. I don't recall the year of the car, but later I heard the
Corvairs were fitted with straps around the axles to prevent the problem.

Don
 
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Rich Grise

Jan 1, 1970
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In 1973 my older son bought a like-new Corvair; a great looking car. He and
some friends were returning home on a road alongside a river, when one of the
tires fell into a pothole, which pitched the car into the river. Everyone was
ok with only minor bumps. The driver of the car following them said the car
bounced up and the rear wheel both tucked under - there was no axle restraint
to prevent this. I don't recall the year of the car, but later I heard the
Corvairs were fitted with straps around the axles to prevent the problem.

What kind of idiot drives so fast that a pothole makes the car leave the
ground, and bounce high enough for the axles to fold up?

You can't blame the car for the driver's negligence.

Thanks,
Rich
 
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