Justanotherguy
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Our area has been given the task of installing monitoring equipmnt on our snow plows. For the most part it was straight forward, but we ran into a hurdle with a couple circuits that need monitoring. The system is using PWM to control pump speed on the de-icer circuit, and the speed of the motor on the sand spreader. The monitoring unit needs an on/off 12v to determing if and how long the truck is using de-icer or sanding the road.
when the mechanics first brought this to my attention they were reading the voltage on the lines and it varied so they assumed the circuits were voltage controlled, i suggested a relay that would turn on with voltages between 3-15, they ordered several of Crydom CX240d5 relays. The next day they came back to me stating that the output of the relay was varying with the input, I tested the relay on my bench and it was fine. Today i hooked up the o-scope on the lines and it was indeed PWM conrtrol.
I thought simple fix, We can just put a cap on the input of the relay to level out the pwm signal. On second thought this will mess with the signal to the motor/pump. Then I thought OK, we can put the cap on the output of the relay, it did indeed give me a constant 12v output and didn't effect the input signal. After some more thinking, I figured maybe the relay would be effected by the constant on/off due to the pwm input. After some more thinking... I thought I could maybe use some kind of opto isolator on the signal line and then use the cap on the input of the relay so when the signal line shows a square wave, the opto isolator output shows a square wave but the cap brings it closer to a constant dc signal enabling the relay which in turn puts out the needed 12v for the monitoring equipment.
I looked for an opto isolator, read that most of the invert the signal, which isn't going to work for us. Now trying to find some kind of isolation device that a high gives a high, but the voltages are at 12v instead of 5 or 3.3v.
Any input would be greatly appreciated.
when the mechanics first brought this to my attention they were reading the voltage on the lines and it varied so they assumed the circuits were voltage controlled, i suggested a relay that would turn on with voltages between 3-15, they ordered several of Crydom CX240d5 relays. The next day they came back to me stating that the output of the relay was varying with the input, I tested the relay on my bench and it was fine. Today i hooked up the o-scope on the lines and it was indeed PWM conrtrol.
I thought simple fix, We can just put a cap on the input of the relay to level out the pwm signal. On second thought this will mess with the signal to the motor/pump. Then I thought OK, we can put the cap on the output of the relay, it did indeed give me a constant 12v output and didn't effect the input signal. After some more thinking, I figured maybe the relay would be effected by the constant on/off due to the pwm input. After some more thinking... I thought I could maybe use some kind of opto isolator on the signal line and then use the cap on the input of the relay so when the signal line shows a square wave, the opto isolator output shows a square wave but the cap brings it closer to a constant dc signal enabling the relay which in turn puts out the needed 12v for the monitoring equipment.
I looked for an opto isolator, read that most of the invert the signal, which isn't going to work for us. Now trying to find some kind of isolation device that a high gives a high, but the voltages are at 12v instead of 5 or 3.3v.
Any input would be greatly appreciated.
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